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To: Deo volente; Amityschild; Brad's Gramma; Captain Beyond; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; ...

1. Given that undersstanding the RM’s clear explanation of the rules seems to be a serious comprehension problem, I can’t begin to guess what the remedy might be.

2. AS I started out that post, as I often do—thinking out loud through my fingers . . . I initially thought I’d have a hard time thinking of a single similar example of any group of people that would demonstrate such a wholesale lack of insight-—SOOOO CHARACTERISTIC OF SOOOOO MANY RC’S HEREON (NOT 100%). A “LACK OF INSIGHT.”

3. Certainly A LACK OF INSIGHT is a pretty grossly serious problem. However, it’s not equal to priests buggering altar boys.

4. Perhaps those words are not in the Vatican daffynitionary but I’m sure they are available at

http://www.m-c.com

5. However, before I’d gotten too far, the psychologist part of me rose up and said—you silly rabbit—you know several groups/classifications that’s true for . . .

6. And then before I was done, I’d had to include some Pentecostals and then some sorts of folks in all RELIGIOUS groups. I could have added . . . all political groups.

7. Now, if the shoe fits, I encourage folks to wear it. Learning and growth occurs better, then.

8. If the shoe doesn’t fit, there’s no occasion for upset.

9. I’ve learned that the degree of upset tends to correlate pretty closely with the degree of idolatry, arrogance, insecurity, puffery, lack of insight, hypocrisy, rigidity, narrowness, willful blindness . . . etc.

10. Those can be pretty crucial things to see in one’s mirror—particularly in terms of spiritual priorities.

11. That’s OK. This group session is free.


6,318 posted on 08/04/2010 12:28:00 AM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: Quix
What a condescending pile of garbage.

INDEED.

6,320 posted on 08/04/2010 12:41:29 AM PDT by Deo volente (God willing, America will survive this Obamination.)
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To: Quix; Deo volente

“”the psychologist part of me rose up””

Modern psychology is occult influenced. I decided not to pursue becoming a psychologist for this very reason because of people like Carl Jung and others who are regarded as pioneers of psychology by universities and psychology communities.

I spent many years working on the dangers of the New Age movement and exposing the dangers to Christians .Modern psychology has been a vehicle to lead people back to old evil practices of the NA movement

Here is the best document ever written on this topic-(much of it by Cardinal Ratzinger)

http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/pontifical_councils/interelg/documents/rc_pc_interelg_doc_20030203_new-age_en.html#3.4.%20Christian%20mysticism%20and%20New%20Age%20mysticism

The “god within“ and “theosis”

Excerpt”Swiss psychiatrist Carl Gustav Jung. James defined religion as experience, not dogma, and he taught that human beings can change their mental attitudes in such a way that they are able to become architects of their own destiny. Jung emphasized the transcendent character of consciousness and introduced the idea of the collective unconscious, a kind of store for symbols and memories shared with people from various different ages and cultures. According to Wouter Hanegraaff, both of these men contributed to a “sacralisation of psychology”, something that has become an important element of New Age thought and practice. Jung, indeed, “not only psychologized esotericism but he also sacralized psychology, by filling it with the contents of esoteric speculation. The result was a body of theories which enabled people to talk about God while really meaning their own psyche, and about their own psyche while really meaning the divine. If the psyche is ‘mind’, and God is ‘mind’ as well, then to discuss one must mean to discuss the other”.(33) His response to the accusation that he had “psychologised” Christianity was that “psychology is the modern myth and only in terms of the current myth can we understand the faith”

Excerpt..”Here is a key point of contrast between New Age and Christianity. So much New Age literature is shot through with the conviction that there is no divine being “out there”, or in any real way distinct from the rest of reality. From Jung’s time onwards there has been a stream of people professing belief in “the god within”. Our problem, in a New Age perspective, is our inability to recognise our own divinity, an inability which can be overcome with the help of guidance and the use of a whole variety of techniques for unlocking our hidden (divine) potential. The fundamental idea is that ‘God’ is deep within ourselves. We are gods, and we discover the unlimited power within us by peeling off layers of inauthenticity.(63) The more this potential is recognised, the more it is realised, and in this sense the New Age has its own idea of theosis, becoming divine or, more precisely, recognising and accepting that we are divine. We are said by some to be living in “an age in which our understanding of God has to be interiorised: from the Almighty God out there to God the dynamic, creative power within the very centre of all being: God as Spirit”

Excerpt..”Many New Age writings argue that one can do nothing (directly) to change the world, but everything to change oneself; changing individual consciousness is understood to be the (indirect) way to change the world. The most important instrument for social change is personal example. Worldwide recognition of these personal examples will steadily lead to the transformation of the collective mind and such a transformation will be the major achievement of our time. This is clearly part of the holistic paradigm, and a re-statement of the classical philosophical question of the one and the many. It is also linked to Jung’s espousal of the theory of correspondence and his rejection of causality.”

Excerp..”Psychology is used to explain mind expansion as “mystical” experiences. Yoga, zen, transcendental meditation and tantric exercises lead to an experience of self-fulfilment or enlightenment. Peak-experiences (reliving one’s birth, travelling to the gates of death, biofeedback, dance and even drugs – anything which can provoke an altered state of consciousness) are believed to lead to unity and enlightenment. Since there is only one Mind, some people can be channels for higher beings. Every part of this single universal being has contact with every other part. The classic approach in New Age is transpersonal psychology, whose main concepts are the Universal Mind, the Higher Self, the collective and personal unconscious and the individual ego. The Higher Self is our real identity, a bridge between God as divine Mind and humanity.”

Excerpt..”The point of New Age techniques is to reproduce mystical states at will, as if it were a matter of laboratory material. Rebirth, biofeedback, sensory isolation, holotropic breathing, hypnosis, mantras, fasting, sleep deprivation and transcendental meditation are attempts to control these states and to experience them continuously”.(70) These practices all create an atmosphere of psychic weakness (and vulnerability). When the object of the exercise is that we should re-invent our selves, there is a real question of who “I” am. “God within us” and holistic union with the whole cosmos underline this question. Isolated individual personalities would be pathological in terms of New Age (in particular transpersonal psychology). But “the real danger is the holistic paradigm”

From Psychology and Occult influences
http://www.excommunicate.net/psychology-and-its-occult-influences/

Modern day psychology actually has the occult to thank for its roots. Sigmund Freud, Sándor Ferenczi, and Carl Jung all spent a great deal of time studying the occult and their experiments even involved practice of the occult.

“Freud first became involved with the paranormal in 1905. He published his last paper on the subject in 1932. During the intervening years, both he and some of his colleagues, particularly Carl Jung and Sándor Ferenczi, devoted a great deal of time and energy to the study of the occult.”

Freud played a more of a myth busting role in his interest in the occult. He still remained very open to the possibility that of real paranormal events. Freud was often torn between wanting to believe in something more and realizing it was his own desires and will that made such paranormal events occur. Freud ultimately succumbed to the superstitious belief of numbers believing that his phone number contained the ending age of his mortality. His fear he suggested was not out of aggression but like most out of the hope that there is a hope of immortality.

Before Ferenczi even knew Freud he had already spent much of his time devoted to the study of dreams, occult, and hypnotism. When Ferenczi met Freud, he decided to devote his life to Parapsychology. Their most noted work was to try and perform and prove thought transference or what we know as telepathy. This view of telepathy involved two very emotionally connected individuals. The telepathy or shared thought occurred only during times of great negative emotional impact. This is different than our modern definition of telepathy which involves cogniscent communication via thoughts.

What many people don’t know is that Carl Jung was actually a very adept practicing gnostic or occultist. Many of his beliefs and views have infiltrated modern psychology. Carl Jung had experienced many bizarre phenomena in his home. Such as doors opening and closing, mysterious voices talking to him etc. The phenomena fit the description of a haunting seemingly perfect. These bizarre occurrences continued until Jung finally sat down in 1916 and wrote The Seven Sermons to the Dead . The book was written under the pen name of Basilides of Alexandria. The book speaks of the creation and of a being named ABRAXAS. When Jung finally completed the Seven Sermons, the bizarre occurrences finally ceased.

The knowledge and study of the subconscious shares very closely with the 72 goetic demons which many occultists now say represent the 72 parts of the lower self. Given the lengthy time all three of these parapsychologists spent vested in the occult and dream psychology, it would be foolish to think that the occult did not influence modern day psychology.

A bit of humor from the late Blessed Fulton Sheen...

“Most people who go to a psychiatrist think they’re crazy. When they come out, they think the psychiatrist’s crazy.”-Fulton J Sheen


6,329 posted on 08/04/2010 5:55:15 AM PDT by stfassisi ((The greatest gift God gives us is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi)))
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To: Quix
11. That’s OK. This group session is free.

I am SO telling the shop steward and the union leadership! You are going to be in SUCH trouble!

6,421 posted on 08/04/2010 9:27:41 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee. here)
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