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To: Quix

The Church does NOT approve of Charismatic movements that lead someone to teach against what the Church teaches on the Sacraments,The Blessed Mother etc.... Those who do this are being mislead by satan.

From EWTN

An authentic charism would not pull one away from the Church. If a Catholic leaves, seeking an emotional boost he no longer finds in the Church, he is seeking the gifts of the Giver and not the Giver of the gifts. Participation in the life of the Church should lead any Catholic (Charismatic, traditional, or ordinary) into a deeper relationship with the Eucharist, the Blessed Mother and the Pope. If it does not, something is spiritually wrong with that particular individual or with the guidance he is receiving within his group. Since a charism does not give the person any special infallibility or sanctity, given the extraordinary character of such gifts it is especially necessary for individuals possessing them to guard the purity of their faith, lest pride, self-seeking or emotionalism lead them astray, and they others. The reality that some have left the Church for Pentecostalism, or sought to create it within, points to the dangers.


6,203 posted on 08/03/2010 7:39:17 PM PDT by stfassisi ((The greatest gift God gives us is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi)))
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To: stfassisi; Amityschild; Brad's Gramma; Captain Beyond; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; ...
YEAH.
IT'S HORRIFICALLY DREADFUL
WHEN
ANY
"CHRISTIAN"
ORGANIZATION,
STRUCTURE,
"CHURCH",
DENOMINATION,
CULT
WHETHER
THE
RCC
OR
THE
CULT OF MARY
IS
.
!THREATENED!
.
BY
GOD'S
HOLY SPIRIT!
.
.
.
VERY DREADFUL INDEED
FOR
THOSE
CONSTRUING
SPIRITUAL, ORGANIZATIONAL, RELIGIOUS
"REALITY"
THAT WAY.

What more evidence do we need that God's anointing left the Vatican centuries ago, if it was ever there?

6,217 posted on 08/03/2010 7:56:49 PM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: stfassisi

Participation in the life of the Church should lead any Catholic (Charismatic, traditional, or ordinary) into a deeper relationship with the Eucharist, the Blessed Mother and the Pope.


So are you saying Jesus needs to get to the back of the line ?


6,228 posted on 08/03/2010 8:10:34 PM PDT by Lera
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To: stfassisi

.

“It is better to say things stupidly than to say stupid things! “
6,070 posted on Tuesday, August 03, 2010 3:54:21 PM by Natural Law


6,232 posted on 08/03/2010 8:17:06 PM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: stfassisi

What? Jesus alone isn’t good enough? You have to add Mary and the Pope? For what reason exactly?

Good grief, the Catholic church makes being a Christian so stinking complicated.

It’s a far cry from what Jesus taught when he said, “Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life, but whoever rejects the Son will not see life, for God’s wrath remains on him.” (John 3:36)

John 3:14 Just as Moses lifted up the snake in the desert, so the Son of Man must be lifted up, 15that everyone who believes in him may have eternal life.

16”For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. 17For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. 18Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because he has not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son.

That’s it in a nutshell, Jesus own words on the subject.


6,243 posted on 08/03/2010 8:36:19 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: stfassisi; Amityschild; Brad's Gramma; Captain Beyond; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; ...
Participation in the life of the Church should lead any Catholic (Charismatic, traditional, or ordinary) into a deeper relationship with the Eucharist, the Blessed Mother and the Pope.

THERE WE HAVE IT, Ladies and Gentlemen, Boys and Girls, Dogs and Cats!

BRAZENLY
DISPLAYED
FOR ALL TO SEE!

The concern expressed
is NOT
EVEN
PRIMARILY
FOR
THE
LOVE
OF
GOD, THE FATHER,
GOD, THE SON,
GOD, THE HOLY SPIRIT!

THE CONCERN,
THE EMPHASIS,
THE EXCLAMATION,
THE DISTRESS,
THE EXHORTATION,
THE PUNITIVE PERSPECTIVE

ARE
CLEARLY
ABOUT

the somewhat exclusivist
view of
a ritualized
bureaucratically,
authoritarian
defined
and
sanctioned
FLESH FOCUSED
EXPERIENCE
of
wafers and wine

AND
(drum roll)
a
finished task
earthly mother
AND

a
bureaucratic
magicsterical created
tyrannical
authoritarian
exclusivist
supremelyl lording it over
very human
chief
power monger!

And they seem to
STILL
have the perspective
that
Proddys
and
the watching world
are stupid, blind and clueless enough
to
NOT
think of such
as
SERIOUS
BLASPHEMY
AND
IDOLATRY!

Ain't it grand that the Vatican thinks Proddys are as dumb as rocks!

7,292 posted on 08/06/2010 2:08:40 PM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: stfassisi
The Church does NOT approve of Charismatic movements that lead someone

Not The Church but the RCC Church.

to teach against what the Church teaches on the Sacraments,The Blessed Mother etc.... Those who do this are being mislead by satan.

God's Word teaches HIS Church. NO church can teach ANYTHING OTHER than HIS WORD and claim to be His Church. Satan is against God and God's Word.

Christians cannot be mislead when following HIS WORD ALONE - the very thing that Satan hates. Following ANYTHING OTHER than HIS WORD - and one will be deceived. DECEPTION comes from satan.

should lead any Catholic (Charismatic, traditional, or ordinary) into a deeper relationship with the Eucharist, the Blessed Mother and the Pope.

Christians have a relationship with GOD - like Adam and Eve did - like God planned it. God forbid - anyone wanting a deeper relationship with 'man' instead of God Almighty. Satan was kicked out of heaven because of 'his wants'.

It's no mystery 'who' satan is deceiving/misleading.
7,299 posted on 08/06/2010 2:46:29 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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