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To: Iscool; Natural Law
According to you guys, at some point during the service, the bread turns into flesh...What prompts the change from bread to flesh??? Is there any instruction in the scripture about how or when this bread turns into flesh???

I'm still waiting for someone to tell me WHEN it changes from the wafer to actual flesh and blood. I've never seen anyone take anything but a small, white disc shaped wafer into his mouth. Not raw flesh with blood on it.

6,041 posted on 08/03/2010 1:40:05 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom
"Not raw flesh with blood on it."

Were you to have encountered the physical Christ 2,000 years ago, you would not, with all of the technology available today, have been able to discern the Spiritual presence of Christ. Yet no one denies that Christ was both God and man. Just as the real presence of God was there in the human body of Jesus the real presence of God is present in the Eucharist. That is why it is also often referred to as the Host.

Did you bother to listen to the link I provided or do you prefer to remain ignorant?

6,046 posted on 08/03/2010 1:47:29 PM PDT by Natural Law (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus)
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To: metmom
No one taught you properly about transubstantiation? First of all it's not chemistry. If you have nothing supernatural in your religion, I'm not sure what you have is actually a religion.

For your question of what changes: Look up transubstantiation, substance and accidents.

6,049 posted on 08/03/2010 1:54:05 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: metmom
If they can't understand this.....

For it is by GRACE you have been saved, through FAITH--and this not from yourselves, it is the GIFT of God--NOT BY WORKS, so that no one can boast.

How could they understand this...

Do this in REMEMBRANCE of me.

Or this.....

As Jesus was saying these things, a woman in the crowd called out, "Blessed is the mother who gave you birth and nursed you."

Jesus replied, "But even MORE BLESSED are ALL who HEAR the Word of God and OBEY IT."

Hear the Word of God and obey it. NOT Hear and OBEY church doctrine but HIS WORD. So we can see who is blessed and who isn't.

I could go on all day with the RCC teachings and how they go against Jesus' OWN Words. Or to put it mildly, what they don't understand. They understand all right - that's the reason for their 'church doctrine'. The RCC is a separate church run by man. God's CHURCH is based on HIS WORD ALONE and JESUS as THE HEAD.
6,054 posted on 08/03/2010 2:08:53 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: metmom

Thanks again for reminding me how great the scourge of modern ignorance is.

That you have never seen “raw flesh with blood on it” taken into anyone’s mouth at Communion is entirely consistent with the doctrine of transubstantiation, a doctrine which seems greatly misunderstood, to judge by some posts here.


6,178 posted on 08/03/2010 7:07:14 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee. here)
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