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To: smvoice

So, explain this....

Why would the Holy Spirit send a vision to Peter which he came to understand that the dispensation of Jesus was meant for Gentiles as well as Jews?

Had Paul told him this? And if Peter was not the head, then why were the other Jews still grumbling that Peter had been with the uncircumcised?

Hadn’t Paul’s revelation been enough to quiet their doubts.?
Or did Paul not make this revelation known until after Peter’s vision.

And, last but not least. Why this answer from you rather than refuting my disagreement with your assessment of these passages?

It disproves a lot of what you have been claiming here, yet you don’t say one word about it. Rather you focus on the chronological events rather than the substance of the post.


5,169 posted on 08/01/2010 4:12:51 PM PDT by Jvette
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To: Jvette
The dispensation of Jesus? I'm not sure what that is. But on we'll go..

Jesus Christ, in His commission given to Peter and the 11, instructs them to "teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost." (Matt. 28:19).

They were to begin their ministry in Jerusalem. Then they were to wait, before witnessing, for the power of the Holy Spirit to be poured out on them. The power of the Spirit came upon them on the day of Pentecost. Peter's great Pentecostal message was declared to a large contingent of Jews from many countries who had gathered at Jerusalem to observe the feast of Pentecost.

Acts 2 and 3 mark the beginning of the harvest for Israel. It is the preparing of the Jewish people for the times of restitution when Jesus Christ will come to earth the second time. (see Acts 3:19-21).

But Israel rejected once again Christ's claim for Messiah. Peter and the 11 are still in Jerusalem, per Christ's command that their ministry begin there before going to the nations.

Forward to Stephen, Acts 8. Israel is ONCE again offered the chance to repent, and Christ will return, but they wail and gnash, and stone Stephen to death. They reject Christ's offer once again.

Chapter 9 is the raising up of Paul. And the revelations given to him by Jesus Christ.

So something new is happening here...Israel has rejected Christ's offer 3 times now. Paul is saved and given a NEW message. Peter has a vision in Chapter 11 about the message given to him from Christ now going to the Gentiles. OK. now we have Israel NOT accepting the Kingdom Gospel, Peter and the 11 aren't to go to the nations until Israel accepts Christ's offer, and now he has a vision concerning Gentiles. It's not a NEW revelation, he knew from Christ that at some point they would be going to the gentiles with the Kingdom Gospel, but some gentiles ARE receiving the Kingdom Gospel and believing it without Israel accepting it first. Peter and the 11 were given the Gospel of the Kingdom to preach, directly from Jesus Christ and they did exactly what they were instructed to do.

Paul, in the meantime, is saved and given the Gospel of the Grace of God, directly from the Ascended Jesus Christ. Why would this be happening?

By Acts 28, Israel has been set aside. The Gospel of the Kingdom has been put in abeyance. Israel has been blinded, until the fulness of the Gentiles has been brought in. The Gospel of the Grace of God, the One New Man, and the Church the Body of Christ has been given to Paul, by Jesus Christ. It is a new dispensation.

Acts is a transition period. From law to grace, from the Kingdom Gospel to the Gospel of the Grace of God, from a kingdom of believers to a Body of believers. From Peter and the 11's Great Commission to Paul's Commission of Grace. Both from Jesus Christ directly and both performed exactly as Christ had told each of them.

5,193 posted on 08/01/2010 4:53:12 PM PDT by smvoice (smvoice- formally known as small voice in the wilderness. Easier on the typing!)
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