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To: caww

Would you agree, then, that it is the criticism of such arguments that leads the debaters to a more effective means of debate?

Or perhaps having it pointed out that they’re rehashing the same points without effect that can lead some to find a new way to approach the problem?

I’m not saying that was my intent. That would be claiming too much forethought and planning than went into my post. But it could happen. Sometimes, though, you just have to vent your frustrations, and that is what I was doing. These arguments are tried, tired and need something new.

I find it disappointing that the only response to what I said was to question whether the arguments should happen, and that there is nothing to address my assertion regarding anti-Catholics attending Mass or vice versa. Trust me, I’m all for the arguments. I don’t ACTUALLY want them to stop. Not only do I see a lot of fun discussion, it prompts me to examine things I might not otherwise. But the fact remains that the arguments are never really any different.

I just expect too much, I guess. It’s why I was very disappointed with all the Bible studies I attended. It’s all the same.


141 posted on 07/18/2010 12:35:33 PM PDT by HushTX (quit whining)
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To: HushTX

Yes, I can agree to that...but not that alone, it does oftentimes bring the issue back to the table though, instead of so much bashing. Besides I think that the anger so many feel is in part a crossover of the state of affairs in our nation...everyone is on edge. So Perhaps it was just a needed vent for you... and there isn’t an individual on these threads who hasn’t seen the same frustrations.

The bottom line is truth vs. falsehood...and some of those falsehoods are leading people away from the source of all truth...just as they are intended to do.

If you’ve become disappointed in your Bible studies...keep looking and trusting God He will calibrate your decisions as you search for the deeper things of God. I recall wanting to know more...and was told frankly when the student is ready God will provide the teachers...and He does. But What I wasn’t doing, I learned, was studying the scriptures between just God and I. It was after I began doing this, and finding that God does reveal to us a individuals, that the place of further teaching opened for me. He tests us even in our seeking Him in His written word....I had to learn to stay with that for awhile. But then He provided an outstanding teacher in the church I began attending.

Bible studies are not all the same...but the deeper things of God are taught as we ourselves dive into the deeper waters of His word...then He provides those to take us further and challenge us. Sounds like you need more than where you are at...pray for more and He will give you that in time.


156 posted on 07/18/2010 1:39:16 PM PDT by caww
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To: HushTX

Actually, I have attended mass several times. When I attend I observe those things which mark similarities with our Free Church worship service while at the same time noting those things with which I disagree.


192 posted on 07/18/2010 2:36:19 PM PDT by Binghamton_native
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To: HushTX
I just expect too much, I guess. It’s why I was very disappointed with all the Bible studies I attended.

You have found a big truth here. Disappointment comes from unmet expectations. A good solution is not to "have" expectations. We should be in the being mode instead of the having mode. This is true especially between people. The solution is to not have expectations of others and love them for who they are and let them be who they are.

If they are engaging in destructive behavior ask God to use you as a vessel to help, if this is his will. Then wait and let God do the work, not you.

530 posted on 07/19/2010 8:34:03 AM PDT by marbren
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