The crud refers more to the means of presentation, though the content is often attached. Likely because this tradition is so long running that the means is tied to the content, and people generally don’t think up new ways to argue these things.
I’ve never witnessed a “win” in these bouts. It’s usually just argument that ends with people being frustrated and throwing up their hands. Others have hurt feelings or think their Catholic/Protestant opposition is just a bunch of morons.
I don’t even see that “stronghold coming down” on this thread. I see the same arguments that are made on the other threads, with the usual suspects making the usual claims.
Believe me, I know what you mean about being passionate for one’s beliefs. That’s why I chimed in with what I did. My beliefs often put me in opposition to both sides, even though it is not a position I strive for. Usually it’s the Catholics/Protestants deciding I’m in opposition.
And you are right. They bicker and debate within their own fellowships. I won’t criticize that, because that comes with my request to “get your own house in order” before turning on others.
I’m not going to say that people can’t be reached through argument on the internet. I just haven’t ever seen it, and I don’t think it’s likely.