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Posted on 07/18/2010 6:04:05 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
Here's a very interesting video by a bloke re END TIMES, GLOBALISM, RAPTURE:
BTW, Unitarians are not protestants, they believe and everything and nothing.
182 We believe all "that which is contained in the word of God, written or handed down, and which the Church proposes for belief as divinely revealed". (hint: this includes the letters of Paul).
"AND which the Church proposes..."
And this is the big secret. Meaning; "whatever we propose, extra-Scriptural or not."
Unitarianism was formulated by friends of Martin Luther using Luther's invention of "sola scriptura" and their flawed conclusions should serve as a reminder of just how flawed the employed method is.
Has it escaped your notice that EVERY group to come along in the last 500 years and call themselves Christian has based a significant portion of what they believe on an interpretation of the Bible? How can they reach so many different conclusions?
When the Protestants and Catholics were fighting one another in N. Ireland I heard an oft retold story about a Protestant leader saying he wanted to convert to Catholicism as he lay dying. Everyone was shocked and inquired why, why now of all times? He mumbled his last words that he would rather have a Catholic die than a Protestant.
Change it to Republican/Democrat or whatever suits the circumstance.
Please define what you mean by "saved."
Ask the person who said it.
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I thought you were objecting to his use of "saved" as integral to the discussion. Is your view of "saved" the same as the Catholic view? Or the Protestant view? Or...?
There is no authority within Protestantism. Each is free to interpret Scripture for themselves and the standard is that the have to "feel" it is right. That has resulted in the establishment of tens of thousands of denominations founded each by its own alter pontiff. The only glaring inconsistency to this is the Protestant denial of the right and ability of Catholics to receive the direction of the Holy Spirit because we seek the input of those guided by the Holy Spirit who came before.
Unitarianism was formulated by friends of Martin Luther using Luther's invention of "sola scriptura" and their flawed conclusions should serve as a reminder of just how flawed the employed method is.
Unitarians don't believe the bible. How is that the fault of Sola Scriptura? Unless you think that grouping all the major world religions under one unitarian tent is prescribed in scripture? VERY BIG Staw Man.
Has it escaped your notice that EVERY group to come along in the last 500 years and call themselves Christian has based a significant portion of what they believe on an interpretation of the Bible? How can they reach so many different conclusions?
There are different conclusions among RCC on various minor issues, So What?
Most protestants who have not liberalized believe in Salvation by Faith alone Thru Christ Alone.
Considering we dont see an office higher than Overseer, the biblical prescription, we have Christ as our head, we will not have structure like the Papacy with Cardinals and Arch Bishops. So, it appears to you, because we do not have a highly structured organization that we are THEOLOGICALLY fragmented into 30,000 denoms. We see NO NEED to agree on MINOR issues, Minor issues are not part of Salvation. Just like the Church of the FIRST 200 years, We are many churches loosley connected with NO Head But JESUS.
IF there are over 25 protestant theological families with SERIOUS differences I would be surprised! The evangelical Baptist, Presbyterian, Arminian, Reformed, dispensationalist, covenantalist are My Brothers in the Lord! We all believe in salvation by Grace thru Faith Alone!
When we ALL get to Heaven, the Lord can fill us in on the minor issues, if we even care at that point.
Seems a broad brush. Is this true?
Other than Fr. Curtis, Archbishop McGrath, Wayne, and of course Jesus (two or more..).
I don't care if or what you believe. By your posts on Catholicism I have already determined that you are more than content to make your own truths. I also don't really care if Wayne converted or not, that is between him and God. Its just the lies told about the incident and the aspersions cast over those who were there that cause me to continue to respond and set the record straight. I will continue to do so as long lies are told.
The stubborn facts remain. Wayne never attended Presbyterian services as an adult and on his deathbed Wayne was received into the Church, one more laborer hired at the last moment who receives the full day’s wage, one more lost lamb bounding into the sheepfold as darkness descends. At the end Wayne faced God as a penitent Catholic.
As far as I can tell most Protestants don't either.
How is that the fault of Sola Scriptura?
How is it not? Unitarians inaccurately interpret Scripture one way, Calvinists inaccurately interpret Scripture another way and Baptists yet another.
The man-made invention of "sola scriptura" is the cause of all the misinterpretation.
Unless you think that grouping all the major world religions under one unitarian tent is prescribed in scripture?
Where have I suggested this?
There are different conclusions among RCC on various minor issues, So What?
No, there are not. There are individual Catholics who are confused about what the Church teaches, but that has nothing to do with different conclusions.
Besides, I would hardly call denial of the Holy Trinity a "minor issue."
Most protestants who have not liberalized believe in Salvation by Faith alone Thru Christ Alone.
Hopefully they will be afforded the opportunity to repent of such heresy. Read Matthew 25:31-46 some time, you will see that faith has very little to do with one's salvation and both the saved and the damned are surprised by what is.
Considering we dont see an office higher than Overseer, the biblical prescription, we have Christ as our head, we will not have structure like the Papacy with Cardinals and Arch Bishops.
I'm not sure who this "we" is that you are referring to. Are you suggesting that Protestants don't have bishops? Because that is totally false. (I have noticed that a great many Protestants operate under the false impression that all other Protestants believe as they do.)
IF there are over 25 protestant theological families with SERIOUS differences I would be surprised! The evangelical Baptist, Presbyterian, Arminian, Reformed, dispensationalist, covenantalist are My Brothers in the Lord! We all believe in salvation by Grace thru Faith Alone!
See above. The shared heretical belief of millions does not make it any less heretical.
When we ALL get to Heaven, the Lord can fill us in on the minor issues, if we even care at that point.
Again, I don't think heresy is a "minor issue." Ddo you attend one of these "churches" that sings Kumbaya as the "priestess" performs homosexual "weddings"?
I am certain you can supply some links and/or documentation. Pleasee do so.
You thought? I did ask him to define "Catholic" and never mentioned the word saved.
If you find it too difficult to stay on subject without resorting to a schizophrenic line of questioning I have no interest in carrying on this fruitless line of questioning.
It seems your ignorance knows no bounds. You should check out Martin Cellarius along with Luther's other Millenarianist buddies to better understand the bull you so vehemently believe.
Are you suggesting that Martin Cellarius WAS NOT a friend of Luther and Melanchthon?
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