[Godzilla]

Christ said we must be born of the body and of the spirit to enter the kingdom of God. Sounds like work to me.

I take note then that by skipping the other points, you are unable to disagree with my observations on other evangelical denominations and their common view of Jesus. That is good to know.

Who does the work in the 'birth' blow - the baby or the mother? Who did the work - Jesus or you? Where in the bible does doing temple endowments, ceremonies, special underware or other work place a person in heaven with heavenly father?

Paul wrote that we are saved by grace (something unearned or deserved), through faith and not of works. Isaiah wrote that ALL our works of righteousness are as filthy rags (literal translation - bloody menstrual cloths). Sounds like works are out of the picture according to the bible.

[Blowtorch]

I take note then that by skipping the other points, you are unable to disagree with my observations on other evangelical denominations and their common view of Jesus. That is good to know.

I agreed with that point in my post 44. As to your other point that we are saved by grace, that belief is also held by Mormons. But as you know, faith without works is dead, so glossing over works as "out of the picture" is not biblical. I don't mean to skip over other comments but have other things - more later.