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Ten Facts Most Catholics Don’t Know (But Should!)[OPEN thread (Start your engines!)]
[ROMAN] CATHOLIC EXCHANGE ^ | 9 JUL 2010 | GARY ZIMAK

Posted on 07/12/2010 10:28:06 PM PDT by Quix

Quixicated emphases in color and/or bold appear below within some paragraphs. The headings in bold are in the original. Some extra paragraphing also injected.]

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Every time I hear someone claim to be an “ex-Catholic”, a sense of sadness comes over me.  In just about every case, people leave the Catholic Faith due to a lack of understanding. 

What unmitigated balderdash! What a cop-out! What a brazen distortion of reality! Far from "just about every case," probably a major chunk of such folks were heavily well trained in the hallowed halls of the Institution. Many were instructors--even Catechism instructors for many years in the Institution. That brazen falsehood just does not hold water.

After all, if Catholics truly believed that they were members of the one, true Church founded by Christ (and necessary for their salvation), nobody would ever leave! 

THANKFULLY, many former RC's have learned that the above assertion is simply NOT TRUE! PRAISE GOD FOR THE TRUTH!

In an effort to help clarify what the Catholic Church teaches, I have compiled a list of 10 important facts that every Catholic should know. 

NONSENSE. I'm not sure some of the assertions got within a galactic cluster's closeness to "facts."

More than simply Catholic trivia, these are important concepts that can help us to better understand and defend our beliefs.  In no particular order, these items have been compiled based upon my work at Following The Truth and my own study of the Catholic Faith.

1. Women Will Never Be Priests – Often incorrectly lumped in with the subject of married priests, this is a doctrine that has been infallibly decided and will not change.  In 1994, Pope John Paul II issued an Apostolic Letter, Ordinatio Sacerdotalis, in which he declared once and for all that “the Church has no authority whatsoever to confer priestly ordination on women and that this judgment is to be definitively held by all the Church’s faithful.”  Unlike the issue of married priests (which could possibly change), women’s ordination is an impossibility that will not happen.  It is not a “glass ceiling” or the Church’s attempt to hold back women.  Instead, it is an infallible recognition that men and women have different roles and that Christ instituted a male priesthood.

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I'll wait to comment on some of the following. I hope other Proddys will comment before I can get to them.

2. Fridays Are Still Days Of Penance – Ask almost anyone and they will tell you that Catholics are no longer required to abstain from meat on Fridays throughout the year.  However, the current Code of Canon Law (CIC) states that, with the exception of solemnities, “All Fridays through the year and the time of Lent are penitential days and times throughout the entire Church.” (CIC 1250)  Furthermore, “Abstinence from eating meat or another food according to the prescriptions of the conference of bishops is to be observed on Fridays throughout the year unless they are solemnities.” (CIC 1251)  In the United States, the bishops have declared that it is permissible to substitute some other form of penance, but we are still urged to fast from “something” in remembrance of the Lord’s death on the cross.

3. The Bible Is A Catholic Book – Did you ever wonder how the Bible came into being?  A little known, but easily documented fact is that the books of the Bible were compiled by the Catholic Church.  For many years after Christ ascended into Heaven, there was debate about which scriptural writings were inspired by God.  The canon of Scripture (the books of the Bible) was first formally decided at the Synod of Rome in 382.  This decision was upheld at the Councils of Hippo (393) and Carthage (397).  At these Catholic Church councils, the same 46 Old Testament and 27 New Testament books that appear in today’s Catholic Bibles were declared to be inspired by God.  As a side note, approximately 1200 years after this decision was made, Martin Luther and the Protestant reformers removed 7 books from the Old Testament.  As a result, most Protestant Bibles are still missing these 7 books.

4. The Mass Is The Same Sacrifice As Calvary – The biggest mistake that many Catholics make is treating the Holy Mass as “just another church service”, similar to those held by other religions.  In the Mass, Christ’s Sacrifice on the Cross is made present, its memory is celebrated and its saving power is applied.  The Council of Trent teaches that Christ left a visible sacrifice to His Church “in which that bloody sacrifice which was once offered on the Cross should be made present, its memory preserved to the end of the world, and its salvation-bringing power applied to the forgiveness of the sins which are daily committed by us.”  When we attend Mass, we are mystically transported to Calvary, where we can unite ourselves with the Lord’s Sacrifice to the Father!

5. Annulments Are Not Catholic Divorces – Unlike the legal process known as “divorce” (in which a marriage is terminated), a declaration of nullity (annulment) states that a valid marriage never existed.  This decision is based upon the finding that on the day that marriage vows were exchanged, some essential elements were lacking.  This process is completely in conformity with the Catholic teaching regarding the indissolubility of marriage.  Incidentally, the granting of an annulment does not render children illegitimate.

6. In Vitro Fertilization Is Morally Unacceptable – Many Catholics suffering from infertility utilize this process in the hopes of conceiving children, while remaining unaware that the Catechism of the Catholic Church (CCC) declares it “morally unacceptable”(CCC 2377).  In the Vatican Instruction, Donum Vitae, the Church states “…in conformity with the traditional doctrine relating to the goods of marriage and the dignity of the person, the Church remains opposed from the moral point of view to homologous ‘in vitro’ fertilization. Such fertilization is in itself illicit and in opposition to the dignity of procreation and of the conjugal union, even when everything is done to avoid the death of the human embryo.”

7. There Is No Salvation Outside Of The Catholic Church – Originally stated by St. Cyprian, the Latin axiom “Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus” reminds us that there is no salvation outside of the Catholic Church.  This dogma was declared at the Fourth Lateran Council and is a source of confusion for Catholics and non-Catholics alike.  According to the Catechism, all salvation comes from Christ the Head through the Church which is His Body.  It does not mean that non-Catholics cannot achieve salvation.  Individuals who are unaware that the Catholic Church is the one, true Church may still achieve salvation through the merits of the Church, despite their lack of knowledge.

8. In An Emergency, Anyone Can Baptize – Although the ordinary ministers of Baptism are bishops, priests and deacons, anyone can baptize in an emergency, even a non-baptized person.  This extraordinary decision can be attributed to the necessity of Baptism for salvation and the Church’s desire to make it readily available to all.

9. Hell And Purgatory Still Exist –  Contrary to the belief of many Catholics, the Church still teaches that “the souls of those who die in a state of mortal sin, descend into hell, where they suffer the punishments of hell, eternal fire” (CCC 1035)  Furthermore, “all who die in God’s grace and friendship, but still imperfectly purified, are indeed assured of their eternal salvation, but after death they undergo purification, so to achieve the holiness necessary to enter the joy of heaven.” (CCC 1030)  This purification process, formally declared by the Church at the Councils of Florence and Trent, is known as Purgatory.

10. Catholics Don’t Worship Mary And The Saints – Many Catholics are confused about the role of the Blessed Mother and the Saints.  Should we pray to Mary and the Saints or should we go “right to the top” and pray to God?  In a nutshell, the Catholic Faith teaches that we must worship God alone.  Mary and the Saints are to be honored, not worshipped.  However, their intercession can be extremely powerful and emulating their virtues can put us on the road to Heaven.

While the above list only scratches the surface of the robust Catholic Faith, it provides a glimpse into the depth of Catholic teaching.  Further explanation on these and other topics can be found by examining the Code of Canon Law and the Catechism of the Catholic Church, both of which can be found online at the Vatican website (www.vatican.va).  Not only will studying the teachings of the Catholic Church enable us to better defend her when challenged, it will help us to become closer to Our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, who founded our Church 2,000 years ago.

Gary Zimak is the founder of Following The Truth Ministries, a lay apostolate created to assist Catholics in learning more about their Faith. He is a frequent guest on EWTN's "Son Rise Morning Show" and has appeared on Sirius Radio's "Seize The Day" with Gus Lloyd as well as several local Catholic radio shows. In addition to writing for Catholic Exchange, Mr. Zimak speaks at various parishes, updates The Catholic Truth website and posts frequently on his blog, Facebook and Twitter. He is a member of Catholics United For The Faith, an officer in the Knights of Columbus and resides in New Jersey with his wife Eileen and twin daughters, Mary and Elizabeth. They are actively involved in Sacred Heart Parish in Riverton, NJ.


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To: Quix

The early Christians are unanimous that you are wrong on this Quix. Your johnny come lately false gospel cannot silence the witness of the early Christians.


161 posted on 07/14/2010 11:39:37 AM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp

That might be a fair description of some of y’all’s rabid cliques.


162 posted on 07/14/2010 11:39:43 AM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: Quix
Then from this point forward, please provide references to early Christians to support your positions when you debate with me, OK?

We disagree on scripture interpretation. I think your whole idea of sola scripture is a demonic false gospel.

I don't accept your biases, and you don't accept mine, so the only common denominator we have is the writings of the early Christians. That's the only way we can measure which interpretations today have merit, and which are false gospels.

I look forward to our continued discussion in Christian charity.

163 posted on 07/14/2010 11:44:24 AM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp
And sometimes there are truly sincere folks whose lights are on, but nobody's home...

Making useful debate futile. The best you can do is point to the empty house.

164 posted on 07/14/2010 11:48:11 AM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: Quix
rabid cliques

...pots and kettles, motes and beams, stones and glass houses...

165 posted on 07/14/2010 11:49:22 AM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp

The BIBLICALLY CONGRUENT witnesses of the early centuries are decidedly anti-Vatican structure and dogma.


166 posted on 07/14/2010 11:50:04 AM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp

I did purchase some books on the early writings. I haven’t gotten into them yet.

I think this incredible tome the Catechism is supposed to be in the que before those.

And the Fatima research documenting that it was a fairly standard UFO set of incidents is still to be completed as well.


167 posted on 07/14/2010 11:51:38 AM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp

That’s a VERY hazardous and unnecessary, unBiblical either/or.


168 posted on 07/14/2010 11:52:39 AM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: Quix

Of course, they must have been congruent with the OT, since the Church did not set the canon of scripture for a while, right?


169 posted on 07/14/2010 11:53:29 AM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: Quix
a fairly standard UFO set of incidents

And the correct prophecies of Fatima were from aliens...Careful Quix, you're ascribing to the devil that which comes from God. It seems to me that's a pretty dangerous ground to occupy.

170 posted on 07/14/2010 11:56:36 AM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: Quix
I did purchase some books on the early writings. I haven’t gotten into them yet.

There's plenty online. Just google your pet hypothesis along with the string "early church fathers." Like "sola scipture early church fathers."

171 posted on 07/14/2010 11:58:57 AM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: Quix
Hardly. Either Christ built a Church and gave it authority, or He didn't. If He didn't, he is a liar.

I'm going to visit my boys at Scout Camp, so I won't be back online till much later.

172 posted on 07/14/2010 12:01:19 PM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp

That’s a grossly WRONG assertion, yet again.

Considering the evidence first, would be wiser.


173 posted on 07/14/2010 12:03:21 PM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp

NOPE.

Just RC’s putting meanings in Christ’s mouth that weren’t there.


174 posted on 07/14/2010 12:04:25 PM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp
Who are you to tell the Creator of the Church how to interpret His scripture, when that same Creator specifically granted the keys of the Kingdom and the authority to lose and bind to His Church?

You may believe that YHvH created a corporation based in Rome,
but I suggest that you have been mis-guided.

In scripture you see that
Peter was sent only to the circumcised.

Paul was the only one sent to the un-circumcised.

No corporation was formed.

How does YHvH define "church" i.e.Ekklesia ?

Or is it all those called out by YHvH ?

A study of the word "church", in the Koine Greek : Ekklesia.

Was the "church" started at the YHvH commanded
Feast day of Shavuot (pentecost) as some say ?

or

Did the "church" exist earlier ?

Using the LXX as a guide we see that the Ekklesia
is first used in Deuteronomy 4:10

NAsbU Deuteronomy 4:10 "Remember the day you stood before the LORD your God
at Horeb, when the LORD said to me, 'Assemble the people to Me, that I may let
them hear My words so they may learn to fear Me all the days they live on
the earth, and that they may teach their children.'
Also see : Deu 4:10, Deu 9:10, Deu 18:16, Deu 23:3, Deu 23:4, Deu 23:9, Deu 31:30,
Jos 9:2, Jda 20.2, Jda 21:5, Jda 21:8, Jdg 20:2 Jdg 21:5, Jdg 21:8, 1 Sa 17:47,
1 Sa 19:20, 1 Ki 8:14, 1 Ki 8:22, 1 Ki 8:55, 1 Ki 8:65, 1 Ch 13:2, 1 Ch 13:4, 1 Ch 28:2,
1 Ch 28:8
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
175 posted on 07/14/2010 12:20:38 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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Who are you to tell the Creator of the Church how to interpret His scripture,

I read His Word with the illumination of the Ru'ach HaKodesh.

John 14:

15 "If you love Me, you will keep My commandments.

16 "I will ask the Father, and He will give you another Helper,
that He may be with you forever;

17 that is the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive,
because it does not see Him or know Him,
but you know Him because He abides with you and will be in you.

Apparently you are guided by man-made tradition.

I follow YHvH and His salvation under the illumination of His Holy Breath.

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
176 posted on 07/14/2010 12:41:45 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: Quix

I’m colorblind. Can’t see blue or red.


177 posted on 07/14/2010 12:44:15 PM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: Quix

http://whois.domaintools.com/originalscriptures.com


178 posted on 07/14/2010 12:50:40 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: OpusatFR

That’s convenient in some contexts! LOL . . . Thanks for the insight.

Though you must be jesting . . . I’ve never heard of a true color blindness like that.


179 posted on 07/14/2010 12:56:11 PM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012

thx thx


180 posted on 07/14/2010 12:58:00 PM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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