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To: ansel12
No wonder you think as you do since you are so willing to bend reality and truth, see post 77

Who's bending? You said "Atheists vote liberal and religious people vote conservative." You are now changing that to more religious, more likely to be conservative. That is quite different from your initial claim of religious vs. non-religious. Your chart supports your latter claim, not your former.

Atheists of course are overwhelmingly liberal (being 100% non religious)

I'm atheist, yet I count on that "seldom" visit church part of the survey, not the "never" part.

You can see this with Jews also, the Orthodox are conservative, the less strong the faith for Jews, the more liberal.

And like I said you can see with the Muslims, highly orothodox, yet vote Democrat.

Your pidgeon-holing simply doesn't work. There are far more reasons than religion to vote a certain way. There is no natural affinity between modern liberalism and atheism. There is an attraction of highly-religious Christians to the Republican party, which is the same faction that serves to drive conservative atheists away from it and to the Democrats.

I've been on boards with atheists discussing this. Essentially the following is repeated over and over: "Do I stay with my conservative values and vote Republican? But if I do then religious extremists who think I'm immoral scum may be be able to leverage the power of the government against me. I'm especially offended that most of them say they'd never vote for an atheist, no matter how conservative he is. I know the Democrats support my rights as an atheist, but then they support killing babies and exending the power of government over me in other ways." Far too many atheists then come down on the side of voting Democrat. It's easier to vote for someone who at least thinks you have the right to be a citizen, even if you disagree on other things.

Now all this is considering our effective two-party duopoly. A lot of atheists align with the Libertarians -- governmentally conservative, far more than Republicans, with no hatred of atheists. My main problem is they suck on defense and aren't pro-life (they take a non-position on the issue that equates to effectively pro-choice).

80 posted on 07/14/2010 1:22:02 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat
You are now changing that to more religious, more likely to be conservative. That is quite different from your initial claim of religious vs. non-religious.

Get real, " the religious right", "social conservatives", "the Evangelical vote", "the born again vote", "the Bible belt vote", they don't mean that every Christian votes conservative, since almost 80% of Americans will label themselves Christian, but they do mean that of the ones that take it seriously most of them make up the bulk of the conservative portion of voters.

Everyone knows that the despised Christian vote is owned by the GOP and that the hip, enlightened vote of the atheists and the less religious and non religious are owned by the Democrats.

I have never seen anything, that tries to sell the idea that atheists are mostly conservative (or anything other than almost all liberal voters), yet we do know that the deeply religious Christians are conservative.

Atheists are not big enough to have their own category in this graph, but you will not find many of them among McCain voters.

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You seem to agree in this sentence saying that highly religious Christians are attracted to the Republican party, by the way, I never said anything about religion being the only reason to vote a certain way, I only pointed out that believing Christians (and Jews) are naturally conservative and that people that are not very Christian, or are atheist, are drawn to the left. "There are far more reasons than religion to vote a certain way. There is no natural affinity between modern liberalism and atheism. There is an attraction of highly-religious Christians to the Republican party,"

81 posted on 07/14/2010 2:21:01 PM PDT by ansel12 (Mitt: "I was an independent during the time of Reagan-Bush. I'm not trying to return to Reagan-Bush")
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To: antiRepublicrat
A lot of atheists align with the Libertarians

You can save your time with me by ignoring those kind of micro details, there is not "a lot" of anything in the Libertarians, their greatest victory, their electoral highlight was in 1980 when they tried to stop Reagan, even then in their strongest showing in history, they couldn't reach a million voters.

What percentage of atheists are you claiming voted libertarian that year? What percentage of atheists are you claiming to have voted for the Republican party in any year?

82 posted on 07/14/2010 2:41:36 PM PDT by ansel12 (Mitt: "I was an independent during the time of Reagan-Bush. I'm not trying to return to Reagan-Bush")
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