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To: stfassisi; wolfcreek; FarmerW; small voice in the wilderness; Sam Cree; happygrl; YHAOS; Hulka; ...
Wasn't human research per se.

From where I sit, I'd say it was a deception perpetrated on idiot humans who refuse to believe God's Word and were 'shown' 'reality'

on some 'ship' or in some 'altered state' or some such

which they believed according to that description.

Again . . .

AS this link in my tagline attests:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2

the ruling global elites have been plotting a world satanic government for a long time. Satan's been at it for millenia.

They have been duped big time by the chief fallen angel.

They know that the NHEs they have been interacting with LIE, LIE, LIE chronically. YET, PREPOSTEROUSLY, THEY HAVE CHOSEN TO BELIEVE THEM AND HITCH MANKIND'S SLED TO THEIR 'CRAFT' AND DECEPTIONS.

This is all congruent with Biblical prophecy.

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BTW, Dear RC's . . .

There is no longer any doubt in my mind . . . at least not above say a half a percent . . .

The Vatican has been likewise duped.

As the OP of this thread documents . . . the designated Vatican experts on the topic have labeled the NHEs/ET's as either benign and not in need of Christ's Salvation and/or from other planets elligible for Christ's Salvation.

FALLEN ANGELS ARE NOT ELLIGIBLE FOR CHRIST'S SALVATION.

THE VATICAN HAS BEEN DUPED.

This in addition to the encyclical with the horrible paragraph in support of a global tyrannical redistribution of wealth alarmingly akin to Shrillery and OThuga's vision . . . should give any thinking, discerning, prayerful, informed RC ENORMOUS SOBERING PAUSE for going along any further at all with the Vatican's assertions about any kind of "truth" whatsoever.

Selling out to the Dark Lord is not a route to Truth.

It may well land one in a personage's lap pretending to be the "Mother of God" yet it will have absolutely nothing to do with the human mother of Jesus of Nazareth and of His half siblings.

You have been warned. The INSTITUTION you consider infallible & the only source of truth and Salvation has already cast its lot with the GRAND DECEPTION OF THE END TIMES. There is no other explanation for the evidence at hand.

You can count on probably hundreds more incremental slips and slides from any hint of Christian orthodoxy to a cosmology and eschatology which characterizes "our 'space brothers' as part of 'God's plan for redeeming mankind.'" Riiiiiiiiiiiiiight [NOT!]--right into the jaws of hell.

I would also expect at least a few if not many more Fatima like events wherein the purported 'Mary' personage will further suck the Vatican sheeple a further distance down the yellow brick road to hell. The supposedly technological yet also purportedly 'Godly miraculous' sound and light shows and purported miraculous goings on will be very dramatic and convincing--and birthed in hell.

Satan is eager to drag as many humans to hell with him as possible. He has always had an easier job doing it through !!!!TRADITION!!!! BOUND RELIGIOUS INSTITUTIONS.

All he has had to do is to incrementally distort truth and reality by many tiny steps over a long period of time.

He must be licking his chops to see the dramatic conclusion so close at hand . . . except that he knows it will mean his own goose is cooked as well.

BTW, an interesting treck down the rabbit hole can be check into Lucent Technologies origins . . .

284 posted on 07/11/2010 4:51:47 PM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: Quix
Expect to see LOTS of "visions", "miracles" and "Mary apparitions" from here on. Expect to hear of miraculous healings that are seemingly impossible to believe. Expect to see "people of 'authority' backing up these claims with half scriptures, or scripture watered down with tradition koolaid. Expect to see the call to unite with one goal: 'knowledge'. That has been given, by a 'higher power' to those in "authority" to dispense to their followers.

We are in the warning part of the perfect storm. Of apostacy, denial, and indifference.

292 posted on 07/11/2010 5:45:07 PM PDT by small voice in the wilderness (Defending the Indefensible. The Pride of a Pawn.)
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To: Quix
Catholicism and the main-line Protestant denominations too, evidently, have neglected an entire facet of theology (Angelology), and an entire segment of the creation of God--the angels themselves.

Most can not see the illustrations of descent and apostasy found in prophetic writings. The Prophet Jonah is a study in "descent" from the place of the Holy, and one must only study the "went down"s in Jonah to get an elementary picture.

The illustrations in prophetic writings include a picture of what happened in the very real angelic realm, their current abode in the Second Heaven (space - NASA can't tell us about it, but the Bible can!), their influence upon the earth from the Second Heaven, their future casting to the earth---under the "First Heaven"---in the days of the Man of Sin (Daniel's 70th Week), the prisoners in the lower parts of the earth to whom Christ preached, the creatures which shall ascend (literally) out of the pit during the Time of Jacob's Trouble, etc., etc.

Imagine this much of the Bible's Revelation simply ignored and shunned, and then looking to human cosmology and astronomy to attempt an explanation of supernatural forces posing as other organized life forms from other planets.

The seminary trained heads of denominations themselves pose as ones more intelligent than Lucifer, and many have convinced themselves that they are smarter than God.

The New Testament is replete with descriptions of demonically inspired (perhaps some are actually possessed) false apostles, ministers of Satan, transformed into (i.e. posing as) ministers of righteousness (2 Corinthians ch. 11; etc.).

Where are they today? Well, they are not saloon owners, gambling casino operators, drug pushers and the like. There is enough old flesh around to keep these things running without a single apostate angel (which is not to say that people in these professions are never demon possessed---many are!!).

The main earthly sphere of operation of unclean spirits are in college, university ans seminary lecterns, in church pulpits, and in the denominational leadership structures of Christendom --- where Satan is the "god of this world." !! And this is as well as in the political realm --- where Satan is the "prince of this world."

Religious and political spheres are where the souls of men are bought and sold (Revelation 18:13), and perverted. This is where consciences are seared with hot irons (1 Timothy 4:2) from hellish religion, philosophy, and politics; often in CONSERVATIVE politics.

I believe that not understanding where satanic influences operate among men is why people are always trying to find restoration in apostate Lutheran, Episcopal, Presbyterian, and Baptist denominationalism, which is so often highlighted in Free Republic postings. ---- Instead of COMING OUT from among them and BEING SEPERATE, and NOT TOUCHING THE UNCLEAN THING.

Not understanding the unclean spiritual sphere is why so many Free Republic folks think that the best government politically is local, but that the best government religiously is denominational. This is a contradiction, of course.

Not understanding the unclean spitual sphere is why so many people believe in antinomian libertarianism (actually "libertinism"), and call it either constitutional or conservative. Lawlessness is obviously a characteristic of uncleanness, and is encouraged along in from the spiritual realm.

Those duped by the unclean spiritual realm, therefore, are more easily persuaded that communications in the Second Heaven are from evolved species with natural societies on other planets. They are not about to consider biblical prophesy with regard to these appearance and communications.

Duped people cannot confess the truth as to how powerful Satan is, and how "playful" his realm is in the minds and hearts of man.

299 posted on 07/11/2010 6:58:20 PM PDT by John Leland 1789 (Grateful)
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