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To: MarkBsnr
The Word of God did not say the words that you said He did, even if the KJV were correct.

I would really ask that you explain this clearly. If I am quoting scripture, it IS the Word of God. Rather through Paul, Peter, or Christ.

183 posted on 07/10/2010 6:48:42 PM PDT by small voice in the wilderness (Defending the Indefensible. The Pride of a Pawn.)
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To: small voice in the wilderness
I would really ask that you explain this clearly. If I am quoting scripture, it IS the Word of God. Rather through Paul, Peter, or Christ.

Negative. The Word of God is Jesus; the word of God is Scripture.

John 1: 1 1 2 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was in the beginning with God. 3 3 All things came to be through him, and without him nothing came to be. What came to be 4 through him was life, and this life was the light of the human race; 5 4 the light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it.

Jesus is God and Jesus is the Word. The words of Jesus in the NT are the pinnacle of God's revelation to us and must be treated more reverently than the words of men such as Peter, Paul and James. Jesus is God. The Apostles are not. Their words are subordinate to Christ's. There are many who believe that every single word in the Bible is equal to every other. That means that the words of the Chronicler in 1 Chronicles 25 are equivalent to those of the Beatitudes, for instance. That is not the belief of the Apostles; that is not the belief of Christianity.

There are many, for instance who take Paul's words to be of more relevance than those of Jesus. These are Paulians, and not Christians and various groups of these have been condemned as heretical mostly in the first millennium by the Church.

186 posted on 07/10/2010 7:06:19 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: small voice in the wilderness
I would really ask that you explain this clearly. If I am quoting scripture, it IS the Word of God. Rather through Paul, Peter, or Christ.

Negative. The Word of God is Jesus; the word of God is Scripture.

John 1: 1 1 2 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was in the beginning with God. 3 3 All things came to be through him, and without him nothing came to be. What came to be 4 through him was life, and this life was the light of the human race; 5 4 the light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it.

Jesus is God and Jesus is the Word. The words of Jesus in the NT are the pinnacle of God's revelation to us and must be treated more reverently than the words of men such as Peter, Paul and James. Jesus is God. The Apostles are not. Their words are subordinate to Christ's. There are many who believe that every single word in the Bible is equal to every other. That means that the words of the Chronicler in 1 Chronicles 25 are equivalent to those of the Beatitudes, for instance. That is not the belief of the Apostles; that is not the belief of Christianity.

There are many, for instance who take Paul's words to be of more relevance than those of Jesus. These are Paulians, and not Christians and various groups of these have been condemned as heretical mostly in the first millennium by the Church.

187 posted on 07/10/2010 7:11:18 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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