Gay priest commits '$1.3M sin'

NY Post ^ | July 7, 2010 | Joe Mollica and Dan Mangan

[fatboy]

vladimir998,

It is obvious that you haven’t read the memo from the pope instructing the faithful to be nice to the evangelicals for the purpose of trying to catch them napping and hopefully add a few to the number swimming the Tiber. Cash flow in the Allentown PA area is down, parishes closing and consolidating and court awards costing a few minas are putting a strain on the balance sheets.

Even my wife’s 95 year old great aunt received her copy (of the memo) and is following the directive. No longer is she sneering at our love for the Scriptures and our simple faith in the risen Jesus but is now actually trying to pretend to be interested in knowing what we actually believe.

Interesting times we live in, right vladimir?

[vladimir998]

You wrote:

“It is obvious that you haven’t read the memo from the pope instructing the faithful to be nice to the evangelicals for the purpose of trying to catch them napping and hopefully add a few to the number swimming the Tiber.”

I can’t read a memo that evidently only exists in your imagination. The pope isn’t catching any napping evangelicals. They’re coming to him.

“Cash flow in the Allentown PA area is down, parishes closing and consolidating and court awards costing a few minas are putting a strain on the balance sheets.”

Allentown is a cesspool. I happen to be on vacation and I am about 10 minutes from the Allentown diocese at this very moment. I went to a parish in the Allentown diocese on Sunday - it is so Protestant that I can see why it is dying. My parish at home, however, is thoroughly Catholic and we’re trying to buy or build another parish church because we keep growing and growing. We have a fair number of Protestant converts too - including a former minister who converted about 18 months ago.

“Even my wife’s 95 year old great aunt received her copy (of the memo) and is following the directive.”

Again, no such memo exists.

“No longer is she sneering at our love for the Scriptures and our simple faith in the risen Jesus but is now actually trying to pretend to be interested in knowing what we actually believe.”

I have never sneered at anyone’s love of scripture. I do most willingly sneer at sola scriptura, however, since it is heretical and anti-scriptural. Also, I think the Protestant “simple faith” is a heretical fraud invented by Martin Luther while sitting on the cloaca. It is not true, it is not historic Christianity and it is not taught in scripture.

“Interesting times we live in, right vladimir?”

Yep. Look at all of the well-catecized Protestants coming of their own free accord into the Catholic Church. They knew their Protestant faith well, and also came to know it is a fraud foisted on them by heretics and schismatics. Interesting times indeed.

[fatboy]

For the love of all things decient, stay out of Yocco’s, please.

I will also be sure to tell my Romish co-workers that Allentown’s church closings (which by the way extend all the way to Scranton/Wilkes Barre- 50 churches closed in 2007 is because the city of Allentown (which is overrun with catholics from south of the boarder) is a cesspool. I mean vladimir said it, it must be true. Why, I would like to know, hasn’t the Morning Call printed this information?

[vladimir998]

You wrote:

“For the love of all things decient, stay out of Yocco’s, please.”

I have no idea what that even is.

“I will also be sure to tell my Romish co-workers that Allentown’s church closings (which by the way extend all the way to Scranton/Wilkes Barre- 50 churches closed in 2007 is because the city of Allentown (which is overrun with catholics from south of the boarder) is a cesspool.”

Well, you’re free to lie like that if you want. I never said the parishes were closing because Allentown is a cesspool. Allentown is a cesspool whether the parishes close or not. The parishes are closing because they are not Catholic enough. And that is exactly what I said: “I went to a parish in the Allentown diocese on Sunday - it is so Protestant that I can see why it is dying.” But go ahead and lie about what I said.

“I mean vladimir said it, it must be true. Why, I would like to know, hasn’t the Morning Call printed this information?”

Because they don’t believe in the concept of Catholic Identity. What they printed was this: “Fewer priests and declining numbers of parishioners in some areas have prompted the closures. Small ethnic churches and parishes in Carbon and Schuylkill counties are expected to be especially hard hit. Parishes with weak finances and infrastructure also are vulnerable.”

Anyone with any brains would know that is all the result of poor Catholic identity. Just check the article published in the rag called the Morning Call on June 1, 2008.

[vladimir998]

RnMomof7 posted:

“Luther and Calvin each, in their efforts to aid in the training of children, produced catechisms that could be used by parents and ministers to teach children and adults in need of religious instruction. Such catechisms were written in the form of questions and responses about the basic tenets of the Christian faith. They were printed in the vernacular (for example, German or English, rather than Latin), in simple language, and could be expeditiously published and distributed across a region with the aid of the printing press, which had been in use in Europe since the 1450s.”

So did Catholics. In the Middle Ages they were called primers: http://books.google.com/books?id=K48k6JIcPrUC&pg=RA1-PA241&lpg=RA1-PA241&dq=medieval+prayer+primer&source=bl&ots=HoohpEKkRM&sig=f-FjZZtOrNethAqfGgdosoG1qiA&hl=en&ei=bOM1TIKpMMGqlAftnNzSBw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=9&ved=0CDkQ6AEwCA#v=onepage&q=medieval%20prayer%20primer&f=false

[Dr. Eckleburg]

What in the hell is with the Catholic clergy.....this is just unbelievable.

The papacy teaches that its priests are an "alter Christus" -- "another Christ."

The ramifications of this kind of blasphemous hubris are pretty obvious. RC priests believe they are "entitled," by virtue of their office. And since these men have chosen to forsake a wife and children, the RC priesthood attracts men who do not want a family nor the company of women.

Here's a FR thread that shows exactly "what is with" the Catholic clergy...

THE AMAZING GIFT OF THE PRIESTHOOD
by Father Kenneth Baker

"...Simply stated, the Catholic priest is another Christ. Through his ordination he has been granted the amazing gift of being a channel of divine grace for the eternal salvation of those he come into contact with — both in his official ministry and in his personal life."

So Rome considers priests to be "another Christ" in their personal as well as professional lives. Apparently, this divinity is required to perform the mojo that turns Wonder Bread and Mogan David into the actual flesh and blood of Jesus Christ who no longer resides in heaven, according to Rome, but instead is brought down to earth at every mass in every church on earth.

So much for spiritual discernment.

Watch the award-winning documentary now on DVD and Netflix...

[Savonarola]

For this thievery to have gone on for seven years indicates that there was either gross negligence at the archdiocese or a coverup.

[fatboy]

vladimir666 said: "The parishes are closing because they are not Catholic enough. And that is exactly what I said: “I went to a parish in the Allentown diocese on Sunday - it is so Protestant that I can see why it is dying.” But go ahead and lie about what I said."

The reason for the church closings are two fold: 1. Because there aren't enough priests (because no one really wants the job and those few who do are now behind bars making big Rocks into small Rocks. 2. Because no one is putting any George Washingtons in the collection plate.

Here in Carbon County, the place is just lousy with Rominists, everywhere you look. If there is any protestant rubbing off in the Lehigh Valley it is because the evengelicals are doing so well with the hispanics who historically identify with popish ways.

For you to call me a liar is really funny, by the way.

Have a nice day, FB

[vladimir998]

Could be but I think it is simply that hs parish may have had only periodic financial reviews. Some diocese do it every year. If this parish was only reviewed nce every seven years, then the priest could get away with it until the review. Also, if it was a Hispanic parish there’s a good chance that no one familiar with the parish’s real income actually saw the books on a regular basis except for the thieving priest.

[fatboy]

We are loosing sight of the OP which states:

A Catholic priest stole $1.3 million from his Waterbury, Conn., parish to finance a gay old time in New York

Yabba, Dabba, Dooo...

[vladimir998]

You wrote

“The reason for the church closings are two fold: 1. Because there aren’t enough priests (because no one really wants the job and those few who do are now behind bars making big Rocks into small Rocks. 2. Because no one is putting any George Washingtons in the collection plate.”

Like I said - no Catholic identity. It’s the exact opposite at my parish. Parish: Full. Seminary: Full (50% of applicants are automtically turned down because there’s no room). Funds: Good.

“Here in Carbon County, the place is just lousy with Rominists, everywhere you look.”

LOL! Even when you try to insult Catholics you can’t get it right. Even most anti-Catholics know how to spell their insults.

“If there is any protestant rubbing off in the Lehigh Valley it is because the evengelicals are doing so well with the hispanics who historically identify with popish ways.”

Nope. It is because Catholics lost their identity.

“For you to call me a liar is really funny, by the way.”

For someone to lie about what I wrote is not. I don’t expect honesty or intelligence from anti-Catholics, however. Anti-Catholicism seems to be a disease of the brain.

[vladimir998]

I am not losing sight of anything. Threads are organic. They grow and develop.

[Natural Law]

"Here in Carbon County, the place is just lousy with Rominists, everywhere you look. If there is any protestant rubbing off in the Lehigh Valley it is because the evengelicals are doing so well with the hispanics who historically identify with popish ways."

Funny, here where I live the Catholic Church is growing, largely at the expense of the Protestant and Evangelicals.

Although granted the Catholic Clergy does not always achieve the perfection they aspire to, there are too many Ted Haggard types among the non-Catholic denominations to make anyone really comfortable with that choice.

[RnMomof7]

Cut n paste is not scholarship. You simply demonstrate continued ignorance. Get help.

Well that cut and paste showed some error in the post it addressed

You know personal insults may seem like a reply, but all they do is show the one posting has no serious response.. you know the old saying .."if you do not like the message kill the messenger" ...

[RnMomof7]

In France the education was either private (for the wealthy) or if a boy was planning on entering the priesthood..it was from the church ...you can go on and on..but that is what it was

[RnMomof7]

:)

[Religion Moderator]

Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.

[RnMomof7]

The ramifications of this kind of blasphemous hubris are pretty obvious. RC priests believe they are "entitled," by virtue of their office. And since these men have chosen to forsake a wife and children, the RC priesthood attracts men who do not want a family nor the company of women.

Yea well I was told here at FR that was all they gave up..celibacy according to the Catholic definition allows the priests to view porn .masturbate and have sex with whores and with other men and kids. .

heck they have free housing, and a house keeper ...who needs a wife?

[RnMomof7]

Nope. It is because Catholics lost their identity.

Many have found a new identity in Christ