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To: annalex
The book of Revelation indeed makes abundant references to the Catholic Church

the references you site are references to ISRAEL. Either you believe you are Israel, or you are claiming something that doesn't belong to you.

12 posted on 07/03/2010 10:01:48 AM PDT by small voice in the wilderness (Defending the Indefensible. The Pride of a Pawn.)
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To: small voice in the wilderness
Well, I never said the Church is the modern state of Israel any more than it is the modern state of Turkey. We are the Israel of the biblical promise today, yes (see my post on another thread and the preceding context).

The Passages in Rev 12 most directly refer to "the woman" who is also identified as the Mother of Christ (verses 5, 10), who also has spiritual children by faith (v.17). The reference to Israel that you see there is not wrong (Mary is the blessed product of historical Israel), but neither it is direct.

I will get back to you and all in the evening to follow up.

13 posted on 07/03/2010 10:15:38 AM PDT by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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