Posted on 07/02/2010 7:42:20 AM PDT by ZGuy
After further reading of the article I am left wondering what part of “THOU SHALT NOT” does this person not understand?
Yeah - who would wan’t to imitate the celibate life of Jesus, anyway!
In the Bible Jesus forbids divorce and remarriage unless you are protestant. Henry VII inserted an addendum to Matthew. They are given complete sexual license.
You know xzins.. there are a few Pastors like you in the old mainline churches..people cling to them and hope they never retire..
For the most part UM,Pcusa,UCC have become Christian in name only.. they are more interested in social action replacing the gospel .
We see something similar in the seeker friendly evangelical churches going the political or new age direction ...
We are closing in on the return of Christ ....the birds have nested in the mustard tree, the leaven of false teaching is growing the church.. soon ..very soon we will see the King
I’m close to hanging it up, RnMom. Some recent stuff here in our own UMC area has me depressed beyond measure. I’m doubting that I can in good faith trust children’s spiritual training to anyone outside our own county.
Our district superintendent, opposed to some recent goings-on, quoted a statistic from Barna that says that 91% of our youth today see no problem with same-sex marriage. He said that many evangelical churches are aligning with that. I assume it’s for “seeker friendly” reasons.
I have delivered some hard sermons on the subject this past month. I intend to write an article for local/regional papers broadcasting this error on the part of the denomination.
Popularity won’t follow.
You know I've never bought into the idea of women having senior pastoral roles in churches. If that makes me a sexist, then I can live with that. But it seems to me that having women pastors is just a small step on the road to apostasy. A literal reading of Paul's epistles clearly states that this is an error. However if you use a "liberal" interpretation on this subject, I guess you can allow for it. But when you allow for liberal interpretations of what appears to be the plain text of scripture, you eventually lead yourself to liberal interpretations of what is and is not sin and what is or is not holy.
I don't think Whitefield had a female clergy in mind when he started the Methodist Church. I think that if you trace the history of that movement, you will find that it corresponds to the whole social gospel movement that is destroying our churches and turning them into dens of depravity.
I have NEVER agreed with the "seeker friendly" approach and it has nothing to do with being a Catholic (truth be told, there are plenty of "cafeteria Catholics" who take the same approach).
When our Lord called the Disciples, He called them, He didn't negotiate with them, He called and they dropped what they were doing to follow Him.
After the Ascension, the Apostles had one difference AMONG THEMSELVES over circumcision, but they NEVER watered-down the Gospel. People became Christians knowing exactly what it meant, there was nothing to negotiate. Christ said that the gate is NARROW, it's open to EVERYONE, but it's still narrow.
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Truth is truth...Jesus told us this would happen ...and blessed are you
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Why have a church at all?
Or then can get an "annulment"from the Catholic church ...same thing except the church gets money
Why don’t they just fess up and admit that their god is Satan.
As I recounted here at FR my UMC pretty much kicked me out for raising some uncomfortable questions for our two pagan “pastors” (two left wing racialist political agitators) about the GBCS role on taking the lead in sending Elian Gonzalez back to slavery. GBCS was the bag man for hiring “Elian’s father’s lawyers” and footed most of the bill.
Ever since I have referred to the entity as the United Marxidist Church and a full fledged member of the liturgical wing of Comintern. Nothing I have seen since leads me to reconsider those conclusions. There is no idea too left wing for the GBCS to embrace.
I know that some of the congregants are Christians, fewer of the clergy, and virtually none above the DS level.
I’m a refugee as well. It took me years of mourning to get over what happened to the Methodist church of my youth. Finally, I found a Traditional Anglican church. We are using the same liturgy that we used in the Methodist Episcopal church of long ago, before the mergers and “modernization” — as if you could improve upon the Bible. Christ’s words were prophecies of what is to come IF we can establish His Kingdom on earth, and clearly, that has not happened yet! The Bible is just as relevant today as ever.
Keep it up, xzins!!! There is no component of liberty more fundamental than the legitimate married family.
I can't post an audiofile of this one, but I would like to direct anyone interested in listening to a good sermon on traditional marriage to click here, then scroll down to "Issues to be addressed for the Church to see revival", and click on the link labeled "Marriage."
"It is for procreation, yes; but also procreation under a Covenant with God. Children are the hope of society...."
Ping
Baptist ping
In our Diocese there is no fee for the tribunal. I asked a pastor maybe 10 years ago and he said he had worked to end the charging of a fee precisely because of complaints like yours. Now it is funded out of the Diocesan budget/cathedraticum, etc.
I’m so naive: I read the headline and thought the offishul person was saying that all young ministers should get married. That was shocking enough.
But hey, sleeping around .... parTAY!
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