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To: bkaycee

“the obvious answer is that faith without works cannot save. Faith that yields no deeds is not saving faith. The New Testament does not teach justification by the profession of faith or the claim to faith; it teaches justification by the possession of true faith.”

If faith requires works to be real faith or saving faith...then there is no real and saving faith without faith and works. How it is packaged is irrelevant.


32 posted on 07/02/2010 5:40:37 PM PDT by rbmillerjr (A loud band of PaulBots, Isolationists, Protectionists, 911Inside Jobnuts, 3rdParty Loud Irrelevants)
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To: rbmillerjr
If faith requires works to be real faith or saving faith...then there is no real and saving faith without faith and works. How it is packaged is irrelevant.

It appears to matter in biblical terms. There is certainly a clear order of appearance. Salvation is thru Faith alone, but not by a Faith that is alone. Works are the fruit of a true salvation experience, not the cause.

Eph 2:8-10 8For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, 9 not a result of works, so that no one may boast. 10For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them.

33 posted on 07/03/2010 6:10:22 AM PDT by bkaycee
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