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How to Book of Mormon is Not Like the Bible
Meridian Magazine ^ | Grant Hardy

Posted on 06/29/2010 8:28:07 AM PDT by Colofornian

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To: Saundra Duffy

Then stop with the vagaries. It just stretches the bounds of credibility that every Christian church you came in contact with lied / cheated you. If these remembrances are true, if it were me I would question what I was doing wrong that I was constantly attracted to groups such as these.


641 posted on 07/02/2010 3:06:01 PM PDT by svcw (Habakkuk 2:3)
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To: Saundra Duffy

Have fun. Great weather this weekend in So California. Now to the beach!!


642 posted on 07/02/2010 3:07:35 PM PDT by svcw (Habakkuk 2:3)
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To: Vendome; Saundra Duffy

I’ve been to Old Town San Diego, too, and the only mention of the Mormon Battalion is in the little LDS-owned museum there. The Mormon Battalion did not build the first brick building in California, or even in San Diego. As the San Diego Historical Society states:

“In 1856 Mr. Morse retired from the firm and Mr. Whaley continued alone, also engaging in brickmaking in Mission Valley—the first burnt bricks made in San Diego County. In that year, also, he erected his residence and store building, which is still standing at Old Town—the first burnt brick building on the coast south of San Francisco.”

Neither Morse nor Whaley were Mormons.


643 posted on 07/02/2010 3:30:19 PM PDT by mrreaganaut (Posted with as much force as the cry of the wild curelom!)
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To: Saundra Duffy
 
 
 
 

Here is MORMONism's own creed:
 
 

Articles of Faith

The Articles of Faith outline 13 basic points of belief of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
The Prophet Joseph Smith first wrote them in a letter to John Wentworth, a newspaper editor,
in response to Mr. Wentworth's request to know what members of the Church believed.
They were subsequently published in Church periodicals.
They are now regarded as scripture and included in the Pearl of Great Price.

 
THE ARTICLES OF FAITH
OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS
History of the Church, Vol. 4, pp. 535—541
 
 

  1. We believe in God, the Eternal Father, and in His Son, Jesus Christ, and in the Holy Ghost.
  2. We believe that men will be punished for their own sins, and not for Adam's transgression.
  3. We believe that through the Atonement of Christ, all mankind may be saved, by obedience to the laws and ordinances of the Gospel.
  4. We believe that the first principles and ordinances of the Gospel are: first, Faith in the Lord Jesus Christ; second, Repentance; third, Baptism by immersion for the remission of sins; fourth, Laying on of hands for the gift of the Holy Ghost.
  5. We believe that a man must be called of God, by prophecy, and by the laying on of hands by those who are in authority, to preach the Gospel and administer in the ordinances thereof.
  6. We believe in the same organization that existed in the Primitive Church, namely, apostles, prophets, pastors, teachers, evangelists, and so forth.
  7. We believe in the gift of tongues, prophecy, revelation, visions, healing, interpretation of tongues, and so forth.
  8. We believe the Bible to be the word of God as far as it is translated correctly; we also believe the Book of Mormon to be the word of God.
  9. We believe all that God has revealed, all that He does now reveal, and we believe that He will yet reveal many great and important things pertaining to the Kingdom of God.
  10. We believe in the literal gathering of Israel and in the restoration of the Ten Tribes; that Zion (the New Jerusalem) will be built upon the American continent; that Christ will reign personally upon the earth; and, that the earth will be renewed and receive its paradisiacal glory.
  11. We claim the privilege of worshiping Almighty God according to the dictates of our own conscience, and allow all men the same privilege, let them worship how, where, or what they may.
  12. We believe in being subject to kings, presidents, rulers, and magistrates, in obeying, honoring, and sustaining the law.
  13. We believe in being honest, true, chaste, benevolent, virtuous, and in doing good to all men; indeed, we may say that we follow the admonition of Paul—We believe all things, we hope all things, we have endured many things, and hope to be able to endure all things. If there is anything virtuous, lovely, or of good report or praiseworthy, we seek after these things.

Joseph Smith


644 posted on 07/02/2010 4:17:58 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Saundra Duffy
We believe in the gift of tongues, prophecy, revelation, visions, healing, interpretation of tongues, and so forth.

What's up with THESE ambiguos phrases?

There seems to be TWO of them!

645 posted on 07/02/2010 4:20:24 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Pan_Yans Wife
When I die, I wonder what my children will do with alof them?

Send them to Africa. There is a terible need.

646 posted on 07/02/2010 4:22:34 PM PDT by T Minus Four (If we could "CTR" we wouldn't need a Savior.)
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To: Saundra Duffy
 
Also, this same pastor told us that some guy who disagreed with him dropped dead from a heart attack. In order words, don’t mess with God’s annointed servant.
 
Hell!!
 
I can do better than HERESAY!!!
 

 
 
THE
DOCTRINE AND COVENANTS
OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS
SECTION 132
 
  51–57, Emma Smith is counseled (commanded) to be faithful and true; 58–66, Laws governing the plurality of wives are set forth.
 
 
  51 Verily, I say unto you: A commandment I give unto mine handmaid, Emma Smith, your wife, whom I have given unto you, that she stay herself and partake not of that which I commanded you to offer unto her; for I did it, saith the Lord, to aprove you all, as I did Abraham, and that I might require an offering at your hand, by covenant and sacrifice.
  52 And let mine handmaid, Emma Smith, areceive all those that have been given unto my servant Joseph, and who are virtuous and pure before me; and those who are not pure, and have said they were pure, shall be destroyed, saith the Lord God.
  53 For I am the Lord thy God, and ye shall obey my voice; and I give unto my servant Joseph that he shall be made ruler over many things; for he hath been afaithful over a few things, and from henceforth I will strengthen him.
  54 And I command mine handmaid, Emma Smith, to abide and acleave unto my servant Joseph, and to none else. But if she will not abide this commandment she shall be bdestroyed, saith the Lord; for I am the Lord thy God, and will destroy her if she abide not in my law.
  55 But if she will not abide this commandment, then shall my servant Joseph do all things for her, even as he hath said; and I will bless him and multiply him and give unto him an ahundredfold in this world, of fathers and mothers, brothers and sisters, houses and lands, wives and children, and crowns of beternal lives in the eternal worlds.
  56 And again, verily I say, let mine handmaid aforgive my servant Joseph his trespasses; and then shall she be forgiven her trespasses, wherein she has trespassed against me; and I, the Lord thy God, will bless her, and multiply her, and make her heart to brejoice
 
 
 
 

Whatever HAPPENED to Emma???
 
Eliza was a devout Mormon. At age 38, she became Joseph Smith's 14th plural wife (in addition to Smith's lawful wife, Emma). In 1842, after learning Eliza was pregnant, Emma Smith beat Eliza with a broomstick and knocked her down a flight of stairs, causing Eliza to miscarry Smith's baby.
 
 
Wow!!
 
 
I guess ol' Emma got VAPORIZED by GOD!!!
 
 
We know that multiply him thing sure didn't work out!

647 posted on 07/02/2010 4:22:45 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Saundra Duffy
I could say the same thing about you but it is indecent and disrespectful so I won’t.

Uh...

You left out 'inaccurate'.

648 posted on 07/02/2010 4:24:14 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Saundra Duffy
I could say the same thing about you but it is indecent and disrespectful so I won’t.

I'll just say your JESUS is MEAN & NASTY!

649 posted on 07/02/2010 4:24:48 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Saundra Duffy
Brigham Young was a great man

Brigham Young was a tool.

650 posted on 07/02/2010 4:28:12 PM PDT by T Minus Four (If we could "CTR" we wouldn't need a Savior.)
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To: Utah Binger; 4mer Liberal
Utah folks take so much of its beauty for granted and that is a shame

I try not to. The incredibly diverse beauty of this state is something that keeps me here. I love it so much!!!! Glory be to God!

651 posted on 07/02/2010 4:32:10 PM PDT by T Minus Four (If we could "CTR" we wouldn't need a Savior.)
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To: restornu

Resty, I had no idea you were a raging bigot.


652 posted on 07/02/2010 4:34:16 PM PDT by T Minus Four (If we could "CTR" we wouldn't need a Savior.)
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To: svcw

Amen!


653 posted on 07/02/2010 4:35:16 PM PDT by T Minus Four (If we could "CTR" we wouldn't need a Savior.)
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To: T Minus Four

Well, that was better than my response. Bigot is a better word.


654 posted on 07/02/2010 4:36:49 PM PDT by svcw (Habakkuk 2:3)
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To: colorcountry

Yes, in Jesus’ name I pray that God will provide your church a home better than you imagined :-)


655 posted on 07/02/2010 4:41:46 PM PDT by T Minus Four (If we could "CTR" we wouldn't need a Savior.)
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To: T Minus Four; colorcountry

I stand in agreement. And Praise His Holy Name.


656 posted on 07/02/2010 4:48:30 PM PDT by svcw (Habakkuk 2:3)
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To: Saundra Duffy
Hey Sandy, you will be excited to know that I have acquired a lovely little book called "Articles of Faith", written by your beloved prophet of old, James E. Talmage, way back in 1924, although this is the 1962 edition.

So, now when people have pesky questions about what exactly is MEANT by any particular AOF, I will be able to help you out with a depth of doctrine, in writing, about subjects that seems to confuse you sometimes.

Really, no problem. Free of charge.

657 posted on 07/02/2010 4:51:08 PM PDT by T Minus Four (If we could "CTR" we wouldn't need a Savior.)
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To: Saundra Duffy

Oh for Pet’s sake sandy, you know it doesn’t work that way. Think how many crappy people get away with stealing and hurting. Sheesh.


658 posted on 07/02/2010 4:54:08 PM PDT by T Minus Four (If we could "CTR" we wouldn't need a Savior.)
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To: restornu

660 posted on 07/02/2010 5:13:40 PM PDT by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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