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To: little jeremiah; TaraP
I agree with everything you said, except:

Nonsense

What I said wasn't nonsense, especially the part that came out of Scripture.

and Most of us on FR for instance do not hate homosexuals as individuals

My observation in this particular thread, and what motivated my post in the first place, was the hateful rhetoric that was being aimed at gays, not their agenda/behavior/lifestyle, etc. And, if you recall, in my post, I indicated that the only way for Christians to truly stop this was to vote. Hating gay people doesn't fix anything; in fact, I would suggest that it has done nothing but motivate them to push even harder.

And, finally, on a political note, I can find nothing in the Constitution that doesn't grant them equal rights under the law. Many so-called "Christians" didn't think women or blacks should have any rights either. Many thought it was okay to consider them less-than-human, undeserving of protection under the law, much less the right to vote. And they used their 'religion' to support that belief.

I do not disagree that the gay agenda has begun to cross a line once reserved for Christian zealots in this country. But I do not agree that it is a behavior strictly reserved for gay people. I've seen many Christians try to force others to accept their 'way of life' as well throughout our history. It is this behavior that, IMHO, has urged the gay agenda on to behave in the socially unacceptable manner you mention in your post.

And to that end, you are free to abstain from any gay pride parade you do not wish to see. And local public indecency laws ought to prevent the kinds of offensive public displays from happening, but if there are no laws on the books, then whose fault is that? The local citizenry that has not made it an issue.

If you don't like what the schools are teaching, send them to a private school or home school. No one forces people to send their kids to the public screwels. My children went to public schools and were exposed to a lot of liberal doctrine I didn't believe in or condone, and I had to do a lot of unteaching at home, but then that's the parent's responsibility, not the school's. My children are both conservatives, in spite of what the schools tried to instill in them.

And no one is forcing you to hire a gay person if he/she is not qualified for the job. But, you shouldn't be asking such questions in an interview, so besides personal assumptions, stereotypes and bias, how would you really know if someone was gay or not? And if they are, and they are qualified for the job, I don't see how their sexuality ought to be considered 'offensive' any more than if they were black or a woman. Unless they start behaving inappropriately on the job(such as the sexual harassment incident you described), they ought to be protected under our Constitution from discrimination based on anything. Discrimination of any kind is wrong under our Constitution that provides equal protection for all.

Finally, as I pointed out in my other post, the Bible says it is not my place to judge a person who is not a brother or sister. Sinners, outside of the church, are to be judged by God, not me. If someone is in the church and is practicing homosexuality openly, the Scriptures have a clear path for dealing with such individuals. So, I don't condone churches that are welcoming practicing gays. I believe they are getting it wrong. But, I also think a lot of Christians behave in such a way to fuel the 'gay agenda' fire and more could be done to help these unhappy souls than by trying to ostracize and demonize them as people or violate their Constitutional protection as equal citizens.

57 posted on 06/29/2010 7:30:50 AM PDT by erkyl (We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office --Aesop (~550 BC))
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To: erkyl; little jeremiah

Where I think you are going wrong, is with *Christians* attacking homosexuals, it is only a small group of people named *Westboro Baptist Church* who claim to be christian and act in this hateful way.

Homosexuals are not new to society, every generation has had them. I remember my folks talking about how great of an actor Rock Hudson was, and my mother saying he is so handsome but he is queer. (The word they used at that time)

Anyway’s they did not hate Rock Hudson nor did anyone else talk about him in that manner, because it was an issue he was dealing with, it was his struggle and he was not trying to force anyone, to become involved in his struggle and change the laws and morality of society.

Then times a changin, and the early 80’s came around then we started to hear about those Gay Bathhouses, and Parades limited to a couple of US Cities, then of course the AIDS Epidemic. Now here we are today.....What are *Christians* to do? We have homosexuals who want to change the entire *Fiber of our Country* Marraige.....Let’s attack the one union we hold to be sacred, and the union that has brought fourth *Order* in the Family.

I won’t go into all the other issues they have made political because we all know them. This is a Moral fight they brought to us, not us to them.....

Each and every time the Citizens had been given their Constitutional right to vote on *GAY Marraige* they have voted NO..Marriage is 1 Man and 1 Woman, however they don’t respect the vote of the American Citizens and want to fight on about this issue....

They have brought all of this deviancy and debauchery and immorality to a GOD-fearing, GOD loving and Moral Society.


59 posted on 06/29/2010 8:13:54 AM PDT by TaraP (He never offered our victories without fighting but he said help would always come in time)
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