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To: DJ MacWoW
"we can't keep the law."

Then you make Christ sound silly for commanding us to to keep it. And I'm talking about the Ten Commandments not the old Jewish precepts aside from the Decalogue.

20 posted on 06/27/2010 4:59:27 AM PDT by GonzoII ("That they may be one...Father")
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To: GonzoII
If we could keep the Ten Commandments or ANY of the law, we wouldn't have needed Jesus. Of course He told us to keep the Commandments. He also told us not to sin. But we have a sin nature. That's the reason that we needed Him.

I do not believe in "once saved always saved". I believe that we can lose salvation through unrepentant sin. I also believe that those that struggle with sin, and honestly try, will be saved. When we lose a battle, one gets up and starts anew. The attitude of our heart is what makes the difference.

21 posted on 06/27/2010 5:08:36 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: GonzoII
Then you make Christ sound silly for commanding us to to keep it. And I'm talking about the Ten Commandments not the old Jewish precepts aside from the Decalogue.

Well no offense, but you make Christ sound silly with this entire thread:

John 10:28-29:

28and I give eternal life to them, and they will never perish; and no one will snatch them out of My hand.

29"My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father's hand.

Once you make the 'claim' that salvation can be lost you've just proclaimed Christ is either an idiot or a liar because of His above statement. You choose.

29 posted on 06/27/2010 5:50:06 AM PDT by conservativegramma
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To: GonzoII
"we can't keep the law."

Then you make Christ sound silly for commanding us to to keep it. And I'm talking about the Ten Commandments not the old Jewish precepts aside from the Decalogue.

The "Ten Commandments" are "old Jewish precepts." They never applied to non-Jews, and do not today.

Your words are a perfect illustration of a most ironic situation I have noticed over the years. The more "antinomian," "faith only" a chr*stian is, the greater his sentimental attachment to the "superseded" (G-d forbid!) Jewish laws and rituals, because he finds them in the Bible. The less antinomian and more "action" oriented a chr*stian is (and the more he defends "law" in the abstract), the more hostile he is to the "superseded" Jewish law.

Liturgical chr*stians are trying to have it both ways. If you need a savior, then get a savior and dispense with law altogether. If you believe you have the responsibility to keep "the law," then you don't need a savior (in the traditional chr*stian sense) at all.

Ultimately, as I've remarked several times, all Catholic/Orthodox arguments against Protestantism are Jewish arguments against chr*stianity.

51 posted on 06/27/2010 7:17:02 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Lakhen 'emor, hinni noten lo 'et-beriti shalom.)
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