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To: bkaycee
So, tradition, as defined by Irenaeus, is equivalent to the faith handed down from the apostles,

Part of that Tradition is to stay in the Catholic Church and NOT desert the Church.

So, I find it very strange that a protestant would want quote Blessed Irenaues to support ANY claim against what the Church teaches,dear friend

From Blessed Saint Irenaeus...

“Those, therefore, who desert the PREACHING OF THE CHURCH, call in question the knowledge of the holy presbyters, not taking into consideration of how much greater consequence is a religious man, even in a private station, than a blasphemous and impudent sophist. Now, such are all the heretics, and those who imagine that they have hit upon something more beyond the truth, so that by following those things already mentioned, proceeding on their way variously, in harmoniously, and foolishly, not keeping always to the same opinions with regard to the same things, as blind men are led by the blind, they shall deservedly fall into the ditch of ignorance lying in their path, ever seeking and never finding out the truth. It behooves us, therefore, to avoid their doctrines, and to take careful heed lest we suffer any injury from them; but to FLEE TO THE CHURCH, and be brought up in her bosom, and be nourished with the Lord’s Scriptures.” Irenaeus, Against Heresies, 5,20:2 (A.D. 180)

Blessed Irenaues believed there is only ONE visible Church and you are to listen to how the Church Interprets the Scriptures. NOT to read them against what the Church teaches

355 posted on 06/19/2010 7:06:45 AM PDT by stfassisi ((The greatest gift God gives us is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi)))
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To: stfassisi
Blessed Irenaues believed there is only ONE visible Church and you are to listen to how the Church Interprets the Scriptures. NOT to read them against what the Church teaches

Yes, thats all well and good in the year 180, But Irenaues himself said nothing should be taught that cannot be support by the scripture.

The Catholic church has departed from that sentiment and introduced novelties, destroying the saving Gospel. The Church of 180 AD is NOT the same as the Post Trent church.

Irenaues himself would agree, considering many novelties introduced by Rome CANNOT be found in the scripture.

356 posted on 06/21/2010 6:38:47 AM PDT by bkaycee
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