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To: kosta50

Sure I believe it. “Since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.” “The wages of sin are death”, but Christ was the perfect sinless man, the true God in Flesh and only by the death of a perfect sinless man could the balance be restored and the power of sin and death be broken over all men. Adam sinned and the curse of death was extended over all men....Christ died and rose again, thus allowing God to lift the curse of sin over all men who would put their faith and trust in Jesus Christ. There is a “rebalancing” and restoration of order that began with the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ.

It comes down again to personal faith....whether you believe it or not. Since you view your self as agnostic in the matters of God, I suppose it remains an open question for you! For me Christ the devine, died so that God’s divinity could then be extended to unregenerated men...”To as God...” So apparently God grants power to those who believe him to attain unto salvation and Christ likeness. The proof in the pudding is the testing of that premise...perhaps you’ll test that some day, perhaps you feel you have tested it...I don’t know your life!


351 posted on 06/17/2010 2:45:46 PM PDT by mdmathis6 (Mike Mathis is my name,opinions are my own,subject to flaming when deserved!)
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To: mdmathis6
Christ died and rose again, thus allowing [sic] God to lift the curse of sin over all men who would put their faith and trust in Jesus Christ.

First, God made his curse in the Garden for as long as man shall live with no option to lift it. That in itself makes any savior a latter-day innovation.

Second, God never states his conditions for lifting the curse. This was simply UNKNOWN to the OT Jews. Jewish messiah was not supposed to be crucified. Jews did not crucify. No one recognized Jesus as the messiah because he doesn't fit what the Jewish Bible says about the messiah, yet you find Jesus all over it! Maybe you should teach the Jews how to read their of scriptures...

Third, you say by dying on the Cross, Christ "allowed" God to lift the curse! Wow! His death allowed God to do something. God had to wait for Jesus before he would be "allowed" to save the elect. Wow! Interesting "theology'.

There is a “rebalancing” and restoration of order that began with the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ.

No, God was restoring order already in Genesis 6 by drowning the whole world and sparing but a select few and then making a Covenant with every living creature on Noah's Ark (mostly animals!) "for all generations." There is no hint of any need or "allowance" for further restoration, or of God doing what he wouldn't allow Abraham to do to his son.

It comes down again to personal faith....

Your are not kidding!

353 posted on 06/17/2010 6:16:32 PM PDT by kosta50 (The world is the way it is even if YOU don't understand it)
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