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Why So Few Gospels? Inquiring Muslims Want To Know!
National Catholic Register ^ | 6/12/2010 | Jimmy Akin

Posted on 06/13/2010 6:41:27 PM PDT by markomalley

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To: Ultra Sonic 007
Also, if Peter was NOT the Rock upon which Christ founded His Church...then why would he give Peter "the keys to the Kingdom of Heaven"?

Read the verse carefully it says "the key OF the Kingdom of heaven". Big difference between "to" and "of". "of" denotes authority to bind and loose. This authority was given to all apostles and flows to all Church leaders. The Kingdom of heaven is within a believing person. "to" has a different meaning entirely. It is often interpreted to mean by Catholics that Peter has control over who gets into heaven. This is ridiculous because there is only one criteria that clearly defines who will get into heaven in the Bible.

The Catholic Church was interested in promoting Peter to be the head because it was easier to consolidate their power in a single man.

61 posted on 06/14/2010 8:54:31 PM PDT by ColdSteelTalon (Light is fading to shadow, and casting its shroud over all we have known...)
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To: NorCoGOP

I rented the video documentary version and it was great. I borrowed the book from the library, and my oldest daughter read, and really benefited from reading it. I agree — a great book!


62 posted on 06/14/2010 8:55:03 PM PDT by LibertyRocks (http://libertyrocks.wordpress.com ~ Anti-Obama Gear: http://cafepress.com/NO_ObamaBiden08)
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To: markomalley

The issue of which Gospels made it into the Bible is readily answered (as the article demonstrates), much more so than why the chapters (Sur’as) of the Quran are ordered according to length rather than chronologically. He should ask his Muslim friend why that is, and what obvious conclusion one can draw from a review of a chronologically-ordered Qu’ran (answer: Mo went crazy in his later years), and what happened to the originals and where they are today. These, FRiends, are what’s known as inconvenient questions.


63 posted on 06/15/2010 6:42:48 AM PDT by RightOnTheLeftCoast (Obama: running for re-election in '12 or running for Mahdi now? [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahdi])
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To: ColdSteelTalon
"“their version” of it that is."

You've fingered the reason I go to the original Greek (which I can read, if slowly-- once you master the alphabet, it's rather clear). Well, okay, maybe Aramaic would be more original, but the Greek textus receptus gets pretty close and is readily accessible.

Conclusion: The KJV is quite accurate. Later translations, sometimes not so much. In particular, the clammy hand of political correctness can be perceived in later translations. For example, there are passages in which the Apostles referred to each other as "fellow slaves," but in later translations that becomes something along the lines of "brothers." And I'm here to tell you that the relationship between a slave and his master is quite a sight different than between brothers. Which says something about the relationship believers are expected to have to Jesus, versus the kum-ba-ya version accepted by too many. To me, that's just another example of Satan's minions at work, tirelessly, over two millennia to deflect good people from flocking with the Shepherd.

Things like that are intellectually quite fascinating to me and very revealing. If you can at least as a reference use a literal translation or interlinear (and Greene's are quite good), you can learn a great deal, and much of it is not in line with modernist teachings.

As to which church or denomination-- matters not, your membership card or secret handshake aren't checked at the Gates. Your beliefs, both professed and as exemplified by the way you live your life, are another matter. It could not be more clear. But beware of false prophets, they came to lead you astray. That goes for agenda'd translators of the Bible over time, too.
64 posted on 06/15/2010 6:59:02 AM PDT by RightOnTheLeftCoast (Obama: running for re-election in '12 or running for Mahdi now? [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahdi])
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To: ColdSteelTalon

I knew before we corresponded that there are people out there who feel this way.
I defended my faith when it was challenged. That’s enough for me.


65 posted on 06/15/2010 8:16:43 AM PDT by namvolunteer (I am a Catholic)
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To: ColdSteelTalon
All Wescott and Hort men to the bone.

Westcott/Hort was the universally accepted critical text of the day, just as Nestle-Aland is now.

I must admit that I don't follow why you have a problem with it... I would hope it isn't because they didn't use the Textus Receptus, because that text has its own problems too.

66 posted on 06/15/2010 3:11:28 PM PDT by GCC Catholic (0bama, what are you hiding? Just show us the birth certificate...)
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To: terycarl

When you meet your creator, I don’t believe it’s going to matter which denomination. What matters is if you were a believer.


take a chance, Columbus did....a believer in what, Luther, zwingly, Calvin, Wesley. L.Ron Hubbard, Joseph Smith, Muhammed.....nope, Christ founded ONE true church, find it, follow it, it has the only path to the Lord.


The church Christ “founded” are his believers/followers. It’s not some organized religion. It’s about a relationship with Jesus.

I am not Catholic but I know some absolutely wonderful Catholics. Many of them are believers just like Protestant believers.

You’re trying to formalize a relationship with Christ. I don’t believe that’s what Jesus intended. It’s about knowing, loving, worshiping and submitting to God.

That’s just my opinion.


67 posted on 06/15/2010 9:14:35 PM PDT by boycott (CAL)
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To: Salvation; NYer

Greetings to both of you! Not sure if you saw this thread but being familiar with the Catholic pings I know you are both well qualified to help this person.


68 posted on 06/15/2010 9:24:35 PM PDT by warsaw44
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To: boycott

The church Christ “founded” are his believers/followers. It’s not some organized religion. It’s about a relationship with Jesus

I love Jesus, I admire Him, I acknowledge that He is the Messiah, I do all of these things, but I don’t follow Him....Does that make sense to you???Only Catholicism truly follows Christ, the breakaway protestants are partially right, but seriously in error. Catholics not only have a personal relationship with Christ....they recieve Him, body, blood, soul and divinity every day, if they wish, or every week at least. There is not one protestant denominaton that comes anywhere close. You cannot deny the true church after 1,500 years and have any credibility at all


69 posted on 06/16/2010 7:37:21 PM PDT by terycarl (4)
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To: terycarl

Your comments remind me of Jesus’ comments to the scribes and Pharisees.


70 posted on 06/16/2010 8:55:11 PM PDT by boycott (CAL)
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To: boycott

Your comments remind me of Jesus’ comments to the scribes and Pharisees

thanks, I’m very seldom compared to Jesus(except by those who know me of course)


71 posted on 06/17/2010 8:41:19 PM PDT by terycarl (4)
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To: markomalley

2Ti 3:16
(16) All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:


72 posted on 06/17/2010 8:48:35 PM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: terycarl

Your comments remind me of Jesus’ comments to the scribes and Pharisees.


thanks, I’m very seldom compared to Jesus(except by those who know me of course)


LOL!


73 posted on 06/18/2010 12:41:27 PM PDT by boycott (CAL)
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