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To: reaganaut

Well as far as wearing crosses, or using them in worship, I don’t find any doctrinal reason for doing so. I’m not saying it’s wrong to do so, but I don’t think it’s necessary either.

I’m not sure that we remove references to the cross in our hymns. Just off the top of my head I can think of plenty of references

“In memory of the crucified”
“Upon the cross of Calvary”
“There is a green hill far away without a city wall, where the dear Lord was crucified who died to save us all”
“With my body on the tree, I have suffered death for thee”

Of course we don’t denigrate Jesus’ sacrifice on the cross. That is completely untrue.

I would say we praise Jesus who died on the cross, rather than the cross itself.

Best regards,

Normandy


598 posted on 06/14/2010 7:59:40 PM PDT by Normandy
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To: Normandy

I would say we praise Jesus who died on the cross, rather than the cross itself.

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Do you think that Christians worship the cross? Seriously?

For Christians it is a symbol of the ultimate love and sacrifice that our God suffered and died on it to pay for our sins and literally WENT TO HELL so we didn’t have to.

The Cross is the most important symbol of Christianity because it is there that our salvation took place.


639 posted on 06/14/2010 8:45:23 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: Normandy

I’m not sure that we remove references to the cross in our hymns. Just off the top of my head I can think of plenty of references

“In memory of the crucified”
“Upon the cross of Calvary”
“There is a green hill far away without a city wall, where the dear Lord was crucified who died to save us all”
“With my body on the tree, I have suffered death for thee”

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Then you don’t know your hymnal very well. Or Christian hymns and how the LDS mutilate them. None of those hymns you listed actually talk about the sacrifice for sin on the cross, only the death (I looked them up). There are several Hymns that the LDS took out references to the cross by selective choice of verses. For all the saints is one of them.

By SAYING the sin bearing took place in the garden denigrates the cross.

I’m talking about hymns like When I survey the wondrous Cross - a favorite for Christians. Now THIS a hymn about the cross:

When I survey the wondrous cross
On which the Prince of glory died,
My richest gain I count but loss,
And pour contempt on all my pride.

Forbid it, Lord, that I should boast,
Save in the death of Christ my God!
All the vain things that charm me most,
I sacrifice them to His blood.

See from His head, His hands, His feet,
Sorrow and love flow mingled down!
Did e’er such love and sorrow meet,
Or thorns compose so rich a crown?

His dying crimson, like a robe,
Spreads o’er His body on the tree;
Then I am dead to all the globe,
And all the globe is dead to me.

Were the whole realm of nature mine,
That were a present far too small;
Love so amazing, so divine,
Demands my soul, my life, my all.

[Added by the compilers of Hymns An­cient and Mo­dern]

To Christ, who won for sinners grace
By bitter grief and anguish sore,
Be praise from all the ransomed race
Forever and forevermore.


642 posted on 06/14/2010 8:53:58 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: Normandy

Of course we don’t denigrate Jesus’ sacrifice on the cross. That is completely untrue.

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Then why don’t you use them? Why do the LDS shun it as a symbol? Because the REAL atoning for sin took place in the garden not the Cross.

Take up your Garden, Norm. (eyeroll)


643 posted on 06/14/2010 8:55:16 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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