580 Reasons (& counting) Why You Should Leave the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints [II]

Life After Ministries ^ | 2007

[greyfoxx39]

When one is in state of apostasy they convince themselves the Lord’s Church is a ball and chain

Remaining in sin is the ball and chain making allowances for one’s pride not striving to learn how to do the Lord’s will.

Thy will be done on earth, as it is in heaven

The display of behavior shows that many here are just lip service as the Lord’s told Joseph in the grove.

What a load of .....!

[restornu]

I don’t care if it is an insult it is also an insult to the teachings of the Lord...

The Lord was no holy roller nor needed to be any more than a
man needed to bray like a donkey to preach or pray!

Talk about being possessed of unknown spirits

Luke 4:

8 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Get thee behind me, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.

BTW Jesus was refering to His Father in Heaven!

[reaganaut]

I heard the naked touching was stopped some time ago. Can anyone confirm this.

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Yeah, they made changes in the ceremony in 2005.

http://packham.n4m.org/endow05.htm

This link gives the entire history of the ceremony:

http://www.utlm.org/newsletters/no104.htm

[restornu]

Thanks for letting me know where you are at....

...and most likely reside!

[caww]

Yes. it was an ex-mormon site...I tend to believe those who have come away from the mormon chruch once they have broken thru the “fog” of their teachings...so many state they did not realize, while in that chuch, the degree of control they had over what they thought, believed and the negative impact on their life.....equally as much their relatioship with Christ suffered but after leaving has finally brought joy and the love they had missed. Freedom from bondage is a wonderful thing...and love can flourish once more.

[reaganaut]

Watching Emeril again?

[SZonian]

Just to help you out a bit, if you're not already aware.

The LdS Articles of Faith has stated that they (LdS) believe the Bible is the Word of God "so long as it's translated correctly."

So, keeping that in mind, the LdS, because of JS, can now question the veracity and truthfulness of anything in the Bible because of that statement, which they will when it's convenient to do so.

They believe that many truths were "lost" due to man's inability to translate the Word correctly and that through deception, many "precious things" were purposely omitted.

Also, JS was attempting to "correct" the Bible with the JS Translation. I believe Elsie has a table that shows how JS was mangling the Bible.

[greyfoxx39]

I seems by the conversation and action many of us have witness, many of you anti’s have become numb to those promptings of the Holy Ghost

Here, "Mother-I-am-Superior-to-you"...looks like you dropped your wings. Better put them back on, lest someone fail to see the holey-ness of the character you seem to claim to inhabit.

I wonder if it's "Player of the Year" time yet??

[reaganaut]

This work you folks do will reap fruit I have no doubt

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And it has...two LDS have left Mormonism and come to Christ because of the work we do here (that we know of) and now helping us show others.

Well, not the work WE do but the work God does through us.

[greyfoxx39]

Exactly WHAT is a “holy roller” to you, Mrs. Joseph Smith idolater?

[reaganaut]

Resty, you KNOW you are not supposed to bring in discussions from one thread to another.

That said, Christ used some of the strongest ‘potty language’ of His day to describe the Pharisees and those who claimed to be superior to Him.

So, motes and beam sweetheart.

[reaganaut]

Luke 4:

8 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Get thee behind me, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.

BTW Jesus was refering to His Father in Heaven!

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Satan is NOT Jesus’ Father, but Satan is the father of Mormonism.

[greyfoxx39]

That quote from Smith which he claimed occurred in his encounter...is sometimes referred to as “Serpent talk” by any who have the spirit of Christ within them to discern such language..... Which lends me to say that what ever he conjured in his mind and/or actually believed that he saw, was certainly not of God nor did he have the spirit of Christ who would have never accepted that language...Smith did so and in doing that revealed the state of his own fallen condition. He got hooked by believing the “teachings” of demons and thereafter built his following around this experience.

It is very dangerous for anyone to rest their faith in what they feel or the experiences they encounter from the spiritual realm... no matter how strong they are.....they must be examined according to Gods word and even then they are quite often occurring from other reasons than an actual encounter. Jesus many times has warned us that even in these last days to expect teachings of demons and Antichrist's who will promote them....we are warned and warned not to heed these......

We do walk by faith and not sight, for the world today has many ways of deceiving ones mind to believe what is not real....as Christians we need to remmeber that these will grow more prevelant even to that of attempting to deceive the elite in order to cause us to be uneffective for the Lord.

Bears repeating...well said!

[reaganaut]

...I tend to believe those who have come away from the mormon chruch once they have broken thru the “fog” of their teachings...so many state they did not realize, while in that chuch, the degree of control they had over what they thought, believed and the negative impact on their life.....equally as much their relatioship with Christ suffered but after leaving has finally brought joy and the love they had missed. Freedom from bondage is a wonderful thing...and love can flourish once more.

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Good for you and dead on. That echos my expereience. I didn’t see the control, the self righteousness, the blasphemy, the lies until GOD opened my eyes. Once I came to Christ (the Real one), I could see so much more...my eyes were truly opened.

[Tennessee Nana]

a gateway drug to schnitzel and strudel.
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Wunderbar

Here Kitty Kitty

:)

[greyfoxx39]

Thanks for letting me know where you are at....

Where I am AT is in the arms of Jesus and I won't be residing in one of your fictional "degrees of NO glory"...from the tone of your posts on this thread, I suggest it may be wise for some mormon folks to start praying about where THEY may be at and where they will reside!

[greyfoxx39]

I'm waiting for your response to this:"I believe these things have descended from teachings given to Adam and Eve, which have spread into many cultures and traditions throughout the world, and that the Latter-day Saints today are taught the true form of casting out devils in the House of the Lord, as well as having the priesthood authority from God to do so."

How is this different from the "exorcism" that you seemed to denigrate earlier?

[reaganaut]

Where I am AT is in the arms of Jesus and I won’t be residing in one of your fictional “degrees of NO glory”..

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AMEN!

[reaganaut]

Latter-day Saints today are taught the true form of casting out devils in the House of the Lord

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More like learning how to INVOKE them in the temple. Fig leaf aprons they wear are emblems of Satan’s priesthood (from the ceremony).

[greyfoxx39]

If you were one with the Father and Son you would not defend wickedness and have the discernment of the Holy Ghost to know when the world says good is evil and evil is good!

So why do you continue to defend the wickedness of mormonism? It appears that your version of the Holy Ghost has fallen down on the job of discernment of evil.