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To: kosta50; count-your-change
(1) He must be Jewish (see Deut. 17:15; Numb. 24:17); (2) He must be descended from Judah (Gen. 49:10) and Solomon (numerous places, but see I Chron 22:9-10); (3) With the coming of the Messiah will be the physical ingathering of Judah from the four corners of the earth (Isa. 11:12, 27:12-13); (4) Also with coming of the Messiah will be the reestablishment of the Holy Temple (Micah 4:1); (5) In addition the Messianic age will be one of world-wide peace (Isa. 2:4, 11:6, Micah 4:3); and, finally, (6) In the Messianic age the entire world will believe in G-d (Isa. 11:9, 40:5; Zephaniah 3:9)
Clearly, He doesn't fit the description except that he is Jewish.

Check Matthew 1:3 and Luke 3:33. Jesus' lineage is shown to be from Judah in both places. It is said that the Matthew genealogy is from Joseph - and would show legal rights and Luke is Mary's genealogy which shows genetics rights. Matthew 1:6 shows Solomon also in the lineage. In Luke, Mary's lineage went from Nathan another son of David. Either lineage clearly shows birthright to the kingship.

The other markers of the Messiah are, and will be fulfilled when Jesus returns as conquering hero. His first coming was as a suffering servant, something the Jews did not understand would be two separate events but was clearly prophesied in their prophets' writings.

2,324 posted on 06/30/2010 10:42:29 AM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to him.)
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To: boatbums
Thank you boatbums. Jesus has no legal rights through Jospeh unless Joseph adopted him. That would give him inhertance rights in terms of Jospeh's material possessions only. However, according to the Jewish law, adoption does not make you a member of the adopter father's tribe.

Tribal lineage is through paternal seed and not through the maternal. The only thing a mother confers upon the child is Jewishness, but not tribal lineage. A child born to a non-Jewish father and a Jewish mother is Jewish by birth but not a member of any tribe.

Therefore his Marian lineage is legally and tribally irrelevant. Legala odption by Joseph owuld onyl make him the heir of property. At any rate Nathen's lineage does not lead to David's throne. Besides, I am told, only Levites can be priests, so being from the tribe of Judah would make it impossible for him to be a high priest.

I didn't make the rules. :)

2,325 posted on 06/30/2010 11:12:29 AM PDT by kosta50 (The world is the way it is even if YOU don't understand it)
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To: boatbums

And lineage WAS important. “I will overturn, overturn, overturn, it: and it shall be no [more], until he come whose right it is; and I will give it [him].” (Ez. 21:27)

Thanks for additional details.


2,327 posted on 06/30/2010 1:17:08 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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