Posted on 06/11/2010 9:20:12 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
Ironic.
While I’m sure it’s been more than four hours, hasn’t this story been posted several times already? Probably lots of comments already on the existing threads. Just saying...
Well, maybe a different source but basically the same story about the same study. 216 comments over there.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2530810/posts
The sin of Onan is no better as says Wesley, Luther, Calvin, etc...
Yep. and I don’t want to hear about wasting semen until women stop wasting their limited supply of eggs.
Contraception kills too.
Ping!
God calls children a blessing and debt a curse. Today we reject blessings and apply for a curse.
IMO there's a significant moral difference between hormonal and barrier methods of contraception. The article barely acknowledges the distinction, but it would appear that the NAE's approval acknowledges but doesn't disavow either one.
Consistent pro-life Reformed Protestants, Evangelicals, and Catholics all rightly reject "hormonal" and other anti-implantation (i.e. post-conception) methods because they are abortifacient in nature, killing the life of the newly-conceived child before the mother is even aware of having conceived. The Catholic Church stands apart in their rejection of barrier and spermicidal [i.e. pre-conception) methods such as condoms, sponges, etc. Their reasons for doing so have little to do with abortion per se, but rather with protecting the sanctity of the marital relationship itself (did I get that right, Catholics?).
IMO it would make for an interesting debate if we discussed whether natural family planning could/should be defined as a "barrier" method of sorts.
Any Catholic who cites the example of Onan as an authoritative statement re contraception should do a study on the "kinsman redeemer" laws in the Old Testament (cf. Deut. 25:5-6). Onan wasn't guilty for ejaculating outside of a woman, he was guilty of willfully trying to utterly disinherit his brother's family from Israel (IIRC the entire Tribe of Judah, as Onan had no children of his own). Any other reading of the text is, IMO, a false exegesis.
"Then Judah said to Onan, "Go in to your brother's wife, and perform your duty as a brother-in-law to her, and raise up offspring for your brother. Onan knew that the offspring would not be his; so when he went in to his brother's wife, he wasted his seed on the ground in order not to give offspring to his brother." (Genesis 38:8-9)If brethren dwell together, and one of them die, and have no child, the wife of the dead shall not marry without unto a stranger: her husband's brother shall go in unto her, and take her to him to wife, and perform the duty of an husband's brother unto her. And it shall be, that the firstborn which she beareth shall succeed in the name of his brother which is dead, that his name be not put out of Israel (Deut. 25:5-6).
It depends on your definition of “contraception”.
This was posted two days ago.
Contraception kills who?
yes. good explanation, Alex.
In fact consistent pro-life Catholics also realize, as does the Church’s teaching, that NFP can be used with wrong motives and become, in some sense, a “barrier method.”
A lot of women. The warnings on the ads for various low-dose hormonal systems are no joke. In the last three months, I've heard of two women who have had blood clots due to them. One died. There's a reason why the clinical trials for the pill were not conducted in the US (MANY women died during the trials). It's been reformulated so many times that any other medication would have been pulled from the market within months of it's release.
Contraception kills who?
A lot of women.
So then you have no problem with condoms?
Actually, I have a problem with married people who want to avoid having kids. Period. It’s a betrayal of marriage vows. I also have a problem with people who think cooking is work and those who don’t own an iron, but that’s for another thread.
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