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To: Pyro7480

Are these folks stuck on stupid?

They can’t consecrate anyone until their ordinations are sorted out.

And yes, until they are recognised as Bishops, they can’t consecrate priests.


6 posted on 06/10/2010 9:59:56 AM PDT by BenKenobi (I want to hear more about Sam! Samwise the stouthearted!)
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To: BenKenobi
And yes, until they are recognised as Bishops, they can’t consecrate priests.

Huh?

The four bishops of the SSPX are valid bishops - however, despite the lifting of their excommunications, they remain suspended a divinis. Therefore any Sacramental actions that they perform are illicit, and any priests that they ordain are automatically suspended a divinis.

Even so - their new deacons really are deacons, their new priests really are priests. Were they to go and consecrate one or more new bishops the new bishops would be validly bishops - though that would be the end of any discussions and would mean (re-)excommunication for any of the bishops involved.

The only exception for the licety of a Sacrament would be Confession for one in grave danger of death - which any priest (even a laicized priest or a validly ordained non-Catholic priest) can administer both licitly and validly.

17 posted on 06/10/2010 11:45:38 PM PDT by GCC Catholic (0bama, what are you hiding? Just show us the birth certificate...)
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