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Contraception: Why Not?
Catholic Education Resource Center ^ | JANET SMITH

Posted on 06/09/2010 7:07:05 PM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM

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To: Lobsterback

Thanks. “Taliban lite” never really appealed to me.


21 posted on 06/09/2010 7:43:50 PM PDT by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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To: randomhero97

Um...What?


22 posted on 06/09/2010 7:44:21 PM PDT by Lobsterback
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To: Lobsterback
Lol.

I don't think it would be wise for me to open that up for discussion.
23 posted on 06/09/2010 7:47:39 PM PDT by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp

You need to take a break from posting posts that divide the Body of Christ. Seriously. This is a legitimate issue, but you’re exposing your passion for exalting the Roman Catholic Church at the expense of exalting Christ. Slow down, buddy.


24 posted on 06/09/2010 7:49:10 PM PDT by Theo (May Rome decrease and Christ increase.)
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To: randomhero97
The underlying issue is whether banning contraception is supported by scripture or not. Once that question is answered it is business of the church to tell its members what they should or should not be doing. If a belief/behavior is essential then the church is directed by scripture to put out someone who is in violation and unrepentant.

That being said, I don't know of any scripture that makes it clear that avoiding contraception is essential, or even strongly recommended.

I skimmed the article, and while there are many problems associated contraception, most are roughly the equivalent of saying cars should not have back seats because of what happens there.

The cold will not be conquered by medicating the symptoms.

25 posted on 06/09/2010 7:56:54 PM PDT by 70times7 (Serving Free Republics' warped and obscure humor needs since 1999!)
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To: Theo
There's a history here. I'm just responding to a couple inflammatory posts like this one:

Far be it from me to know what context Calvin was discussing contraception. But it's clear from the snippet you offered that Calvin is preaching against avoiding having children in general (much like when the "alter Christus" denies himself a wife and family.)

Abortion is a sin. But barrier contraception is legal, moral and up to the discretion of a husband and wife.

As I said, please continue to have crotchety old celibate men and the pederasts among them keep telling women they must have a child for every year they are married in order to swell the papist ranks.

Many of those families will see this as one more good reason to depart Rome and find themselves in a Scripturally-faithful church which acknowledges no mediator nor redeemer but Christ.

26 posted on 06/09/2010 7:57:04 PM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: 70times7
Once that question is answered it is business of the church to tell its members what they should or should not be doing.

That's fine. However, forcing the opinion of the church on the rest of society disregards the very foundation of liberty.
27 posted on 06/09/2010 7:59:30 PM PDT by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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To: Grunthor

I just finished reading that entire piece. It was excellent. I’m not Catholic but there was so much truth to that piece, it was humbling.


28 posted on 06/09/2010 8:01:42 PM PDT by Paved Paradise
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp

At first, I thought you wrote this, but I see it was Dr. Janet Smith. That was really good and I read it all. I am tired now.


29 posted on 06/09/2010 8:02:31 PM PDT by Paved Paradise
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp; Theo

You acknowledge that you started a whole new thread to grind an old axe? You even copy in posts? Listen to Theo.


30 posted on 06/09/2010 8:03:37 PM PDT by 70times7 (Serving Free Republics' warped and obscure humor needs since 1999!)
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To: randomhero97

Of all the gifts of God I believe that “The Church” dislikes free will the most.


31 posted on 06/09/2010 8:04:25 PM PDT by Grunthor (Getting married, T minus 17 days.)
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To: 70times7

That’s not an old axe, it was posted today. That kind of vicious demonically inspired Planned Parenthood/Margaret Sanger propaganda needs to be refuted.


32 posted on 06/09/2010 8:06:29 PM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: Grunthor
You got that right.

It's scary that many here would be perfectly happy with a theological influenced government.
33 posted on 06/09/2010 8:07:19 PM PDT by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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To: randomhero97

“It’s scary that many here would be perfectly happy with a theological influenced government.”

Only so long as it was THEIR theology influencing said government. If it is someone elses religion doing that, THEN it is wrong.


34 posted on 06/09/2010 8:09:26 PM PDT by Grunthor (Getting married, T minus 17 days.)
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To: Paved Paradise

Yes, it was written by Janet Smith. She’s a great lady. I had the good fortune of sitting with her for dinner following a Catholic Medical Association conference several years ago. Just a really great person.


35 posted on 06/09/2010 8:10:21 PM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: randomhero97
You are putting yourself in an odd position. You have already stated that "it is between the individual and God". Yet God makes it clear in scripture that individuals are supposed to be part of a church.

Then there is the issue is seperation of church and state. If one does one's homework it is easy to find that Jefferson was explaining to a church that the government was restricted from involving itself w/ the church - but not the other way around.

You seem to think it is wrong for any individual or group to impose its moral framework upon everyone else. Is that correct?

36 posted on 06/09/2010 8:12:39 PM PDT by 70times7 (Serving Free Republics' warped and obscure humor needs since 1999!)
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp

I would not mind you pinging me if you post other good stuff like this. Thanks and God bless.


37 posted on 06/09/2010 8:13:43 PM PDT by Paved Paradise
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To: randomhero97
It's scary that many here would be perfectly happy with a theological influenced government.

Yeah, those founders were a real bunch of radical whack jobs.

38 posted on 06/09/2010 8:15:02 PM PDT by 70times7 (Serving Free Republics' warped and obscure humor needs since 1999!)
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To: 70times7

Are you kidding? I think she says it very well. Her writing is conversational and I like that. I am so used to academic writing and reading scholarly journals that it was like a breath of fresh air. And, FWIW, I am very tired so I overlooked the true author in the first bit.

I have no idea why you think she says it poorly. Maybe you could do better?


39 posted on 06/09/2010 8:15:46 PM PDT by Paved Paradise
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To: Paved Paradise

I gave up after a few paragraphs. She needs a good editor. The writing was redundant, wordy and skipped around with her ideas. Perhaps it gets better as one progresses. I will try again.


40 posted on 06/09/2010 8:18:54 PM PDT by 70times7 (Serving Free Republics' warped and obscure humor needs since 1999!)
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