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To: bibletruth
You appear to live your life like Thomas: John 20:29 “Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.”

Not exactly. I'm INSPIRED by the art to live as a better Christian. It is very soothing, particularly during Eucharistic Adoration, and helps peace settle into the bones. Also, don't forget that far from condemning Thomas, Christ INVITED him to put his hands in the wounds so that he may believe. Paul was struck blind that he may believe. There are other examples from the saints' lives.

Is that cathedral eternal?

Cathedrals are constructed to last 1,000 years. Many are much older than that. If a building is built right, it will last a long time.

Are those man made arts and architecture eternal?

Not exactly man made. As an artist, although in music, artists use God-given gifts and abilities honed. None of this exists without the gift from God. It's not possible. So, in a way, yes it is eternal, passed down from generation to generation, not just the objects, but the knowledge of how to produce them.

27 posted on 06/08/2010 6:30:47 PM PDT by Desdemona
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To: Desdemona

Sorry my words did not make it clear - I was not condeming Thomas, the point was to demonstrate what Christ Jesus said, which is that faith by not seeing is greater than faith which needs visible sights to believe or be inspired. Thomas appeared inspired only by the visible sight of Christ, that is why his faith is demonstrated in the Bible (in the Gospels) by his very words in the regarding his need to see before he believed, as is recorded in John 20:

John 20:24 “But Thomas, one of the twelve, called Didymus, was not with them when Jesus came.” John 20:25 “The other disciples therefore said unto him, We have seen the Lord. But he said unto them, Except I shall see in his hands the print of the nails, and put my finger into the print of the nails, and thrust my hand into his side, I will not believe.

There you have it, Thomas himself declaring that he would not believe unless he has seen. I do not condone Thomas, Christ did not condone Thomas: but Christ did clearly say that there are greater faiths than Thomas: those who believe without seeing.

I am INSPIRED by Christ and His Words without seeing anything, and fully in awe in the inspired Bible. I ADORE Christ, not His creation nor anything that man formulates.

Isaiah 42:8 “I am the LORD: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise to graven images.


50 posted on 06/08/2010 7:10:13 PM PDT by bibletruth
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To: Desdemona

I am simply saying that the Church is the Body of Christ, of which I am inside the Body of Christ. And the full Godhead is in me: read Gospel of John and Paul’s letters. Believers are God’s building: it is not a architecture or physical building. It is not made with hands: read 1 Corinthians 3:9, Ephesians 2:21-22.

1 Corinthians 3:9 “For we are labourers together with God: ye are God’s husbandry, ye are God’s building.”

Ephesians 2:21-22 “In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord: In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.”

The perfectly inspired Word of God clearly provides proof that believers are God’s building. And since this is true, then I need no visible architecture building to grow my Christian faith: my faith is made perfect by Christ. I lack nothing: for I have all spiritual things in Christ: “who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ” (Ephesians 1:3)


58 posted on 06/08/2010 7:21:59 PM PDT by bibletruth
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