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I don't think it's a "revival of an old thread"; more of a reply to a comment. Well, from personal and professional experience there, things are that bleak. Probably worse. The parish is miniscule, old (in terms of overall age and demographics), and strained. The last pastor sent to them was also very young and inexperienced. Did a lot of damage. This one is the same--or could be worse. I figure if you're looking to kill a parish, do it quickly, but I think there's something more sinister (if it can get more sinister). May be it's the investment in the renovation church property? (It's not a "new" church at all; it's a very old methodist church that required a great deal of work and investment...very impractical). It's bad despite the rosy picture painted by some pathological optimists.