Posted on 06/07/2010 7:28:42 AM PDT by topcat54
16 For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first.
17Then we who are alive and remain will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we shall always be with the Lord.
18Therefore comfort one another with these words.
2 Thessalonians 2:7. For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
Quix, you bring no light (or Christian charity) to any of these discussions.
Also, the rapture is not new in the Bible. Enoch, Elijah, and Jesus Christ were all raptured.
INDEED. WELL PUT.
The whole notion is completely UNBiblical and absurdly idiotic.
I’m embarrased for them . . . that they are
Christian, conservative and still seem to have terminal troubles with the plain statements of Scripture about such things.
Truly they’ve become mesmerized by RUBBER DICTIONARIES, RUBBER “BIBLES” and RUBBER HISTORIES.
Crazy to the max.
The following is well & accurately said:
This author is a hack.
If we are to believe that Ezekiel 38 and 39 already happened, all we have to do is look at 38:18 through all of 39.
When in history has Israel faced such a force? Was this force so completely routed that the world knew it was GOD who defended Israel? Was there a great and mighty earthquake? Was there great rain and fire and brimstone? Was Magog consumed by fire? What about the people of Israel not gathering wood from the fields or firewood from the forests, as they’d burn weapons for 7 YEARS? What about burying the dead for 7 months?
This guy is a hack, cherry picking what he wants.
Read Ezekiel and it doesn’t take much to realize that the war of Gog/Magog HAS NOT happened.
Ezekiel describes a war so vast and yet the destruction is so lop sided and complete.
Also Ezekiel 38:8 After many days you will be summoned; in the latter years you will come into the land that is restored from the sword, whose inhabitants have been gathered from many nations to the mountains of Israel which had been a continual waste; but its people were brought out from the nations, and they are living securely, all of them.
Sounds to me like modern day Israel. A land that WAS a continual waste, until the people of Israel returned, literally from all over the world.
I think what a key in this verse is the term latter years. If this had already happened, this would have happened before the time of Christ, making Christs time the very latter years.
No- Ezekiel IS NOT describing the past. Its the future. A war that will one day happen, and just like Ezekiel says, “And the nations will know that I am the LORD, the Holy One in Israel.” And yet still the Antichrist will still make war against God and Israel.
God will make himself known to the world, and yet the people of the world will align themselves with Antichrist and against God.
It doesn’t take much to see that Israels allies are deserting her. That the WORLDS animosity against Israel is rising. NO OTHER nation is ridiculed and viewed with double standards. Nations lie against Israel and people CHOOSE to believe those lies. The naive follow along.
I for one have read Gods word. I know that what is happening today against Israel, goes beyond man and governments. Whats happening today is being fought out between angles and demons. Satan and his minions are pushing world events.
All has been foretold. God predicted it and is allowing it.
He also tells us the final outcome.
Okay, I admit, that was “bringing light”. I would like to research this more but that looks to be helpful.
It still boggles my mind that anyone could fall for the whole thoroughly irrationial nonsense of such prophecies happening in 70AD.
Do folks turn their brains off when they read such Scriptures—like they turn their brains off when they read about
GOD’S EVERLASTING PROMISES TO THE CHILDREN OF ABRAHAM, ISAAC AND JACOB ENDURING AS LONG AS THERE ARE SUN, MOON AND STARS???
What is their motivation for believing such lies from hell that God breaks such EVERLASTING PROMISES TO HIS BEST BUD???
I don’t know anyone praying for judgment etc. END TIMES EVENTS to rush along soon.
There’s even a Scripture against such sentiments.
There is also a Scripture about “even so, come quickly, Lord Jesus.”
Seeking to see Jesus is in a different category.
I certainly pray for as long as possible of relative normalcy to work while there’s still light.
I thought that’s what you meant.
still searching for "loopholes"
Did you forget your /sar tag?
Thanks for catching that. I missed that in brief perusal.
Bump for later
Naw.
Y’all flood the threads with extensive UNBIBLICAL BLATHER.
I think the most loving response I can make for the widest variety of readers is to provide a diversity of alternate sources just as extensively documenting the Biblical truths of such issues.
And, I think the most loving thing to do is provide all the text so folks don’t have to bother going off FR to consider the issues of the FR thread from all sides.
I don’t recall hiring you as my supervisor nor my posting style coach.
Seems to me the rabid clique types are up to their usual whining, wailing, throwing dust in the air and running to the RM when their sensibilities aren’t flattered and applauded.
That’s sooooooooooooooooooooooooooo impressive.
All the rabid clique Mummies and Daddies must be incredibly proud at all their two year olds !!!!DEMANDING!!!! that the world conform to their 2 year old sensibilities.
I guess the parenting skills are about as good as the UNRUBBERIZED authentic Bible comprehension skills.
INDEED! I AGREE.
But your source was from a Unitarian Universalist cult?
THANKS FOR YOUR KIND WORDS.
I was about to wonder if the rabid cliques’ “page down” keys were all
sacrifced in some wierd plastic melting ritual on the altars of
REPLACEMENTARIANISM/ PRETERISM/ A-MILLENIALISM/ POST-MILLENIALISM/ RUN-OF-THE-MIL-ISM . . . probably on Halloween.
/s
Now now.
REPLACEMENTARIAN naysayers don’t deal in ideas.
They just cobble together words haphazardly from the left-over shards of the elastic and rubber bands their shredded “Bibles” are made from.
That’s one of my favorite things in the Old Testament.
Thanks.
And come on Quix. How can you dismiss eschatological views that you disagree with as “unbiblical blather” when you believe in aliens and spaceships? Come on man, this is not an issue that is worth dividing or attacking one another over. No one will be saved based on their view of the end-times.
Gal 5:15 But if you bite and devour one another, watch out that you are not consumed by one another.
Gal 5:16 But I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not gratify the desires of the flesh.
Gal 5:17 For the desires of the flesh are against the Spirit, and the desires of the Spirit are against the flesh, for these are opposed to each other, to keep you from doing the things you want to do.
Gal 5:18 But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law.
Gal 5:19 Now the works of the flesh are evident: sexual immorality, impurity, sensuality,
Gal 5:20 idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, rivalries, dissensions, divisions,
Gal 5:21 envy, drunkenness, orgies, and things like these. I warn you, as I warned you before, that those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.
Gal 5:22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness,
Gal 5:23 gentleness, self-control; against such things there is no law.
Gal 5:24 And those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires.
Gal 5:25 If we live by the Spirit, let us also walk by the Spirit.
Gal 5:26 Let us not become conceited, provoking one another, envying one another.
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