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To: Colofornian

“That’s like saying I’m investigating spaghetti as an alternative to Italian food.
So if they abandon an Italian restaurant that bills itself as the “one and only true Italian restaurant on the face of the earth” (your parallel as applied to Mormon Doctrine & Covenants 1:30), they wouldn’t be an “apostate” to true Italian restaurant food, after all? That would just be a religious myth made up wholesale by that Italian restaurant Inc?

They really could get true Italian restaurant food apart from that restaurant chain? And that Italian restaurant “bible” of how to run a restaurant chain...it just flat out lied in its D&C 1:30 equivalency passage? Which means the restaurant founder was a false Italian restaurant “prophet” — all because he wanted to just market his own chain?”

The LDS church would be the one and only restaurant serving the entire Italian food menu available today. You may choose to patronize a restaurant that only serves spaghetti or pizza etc.


37 posted on 06/03/2010 12:27:35 PM PDT by Paragon Defender
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To: Paragon Defender

HEY!

When are you going to show us all the LIES!!??

Otherwise, when will you issue an apology for disparaging honest people?


41 posted on 06/03/2010 12:35:38 PM PDT by SZonian (We began as a REPUBLIC, a nation of laws. We became a DEMOCRACY, majority rules. Next step is?)
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To: Paragon Defender

The LDS church would be the one and only restaurant serving the dog food today.


48 posted on 06/03/2010 2:13:43 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: Paragon Defender; Elsie; reaganaut; Vendome; Godzilla; ejonesie22; svcw; T Minus Four; restornu; ...
The LDS church would be the one and only restaurant serving the entire Italian food menu available today. You may choose to patronize a restaurant that only serves spaghetti or pizza etc.

Well, nice "try" PD. Maybe a "C" for effort (but an "F" on execution).

You see, what's consistent 'bout Lds apologists/some leaders...
...as they try to "soft pedal" the true Mormon position on those outside their faith...
...is they try to hint that the real problem with these other sects is that they're just incomplete or function as a piecemeal operation. (Hence, PD's attempt to basically assign to the Christian church the role of only "piecemeal" authentic cuisine, at best)

The soft-pedalers try to communicate that we're not so horrid as other Lds leaders have made us out to be; that...
...we simply lack some authenticity;
...we simply lack all authority;
...they're the only ones that who have the "full restoration" of the Original Restaurant;
...we're accused -- well, at least our spiritual forefathers are so accused -- of finegling away "many plain and precious things" out of the "Master Recipe Book"...

But to stay with this Italian restaurant description, what's wrong with this picture? Well, I'll just pick out one authoritative "scripture" for Mr. PD and his apologists/leaders to match the above against...Joseph Smith, History vv. 18-19...cited by Elsie in post #33...only written out to stay with this Italian theme...words in italic match Mormon "scripture":

My object in going to inquire of the don was to know which of all the restaurant chains was right, that I might know which to dine therein. No sooner, therefore, did I get possession of myself, so as to be able to speak, than I asked the don and his son who stood above me in the light, which of all the restaurant chains was right (for at this time it had never entered into my heart that all were wrong)—and which I should eat at.

19 I was answered that I must eat at none of them, for they were all wrong; and the don who addressed me said that ALL these competing restaurants' recipes were putrid [literal word meaning of "abomination"] in his sight; that those cooks were all corrupt; that: “they draw near to me with their menus, but their appetites are far from me, they teach for recipes the commercialization of men, having a form of Italian food, but they deny the saucy power thereof.”

OK, now if this was true...if the don leading PD in his quest for authentic Italian cuisine said the above...that "ALL these competing restaurants' recipes were an abomination in his sight..." pray tell, PD...How do you possibly then arrive at some made-up Mormon notion that the spaghetti or pizza served up by other restaurants is likewise authentic?

You can't have it both ways, PD!
You can't have your restaurant founder claiming 100% of the recipes are putrid (the literal meaning of the word "abomination") @ all other competing restaurants...
...while claiming that it's "OK" if diners want to "patronize" the scarfing of putrid "spaghetti" and "pizza."
(Any true chef who concluded that it's "OK" for diners to eat putrid food is no true chef at all!)

PD, your founder said, and was enshrined as "scripture" that 100% of the "recipes" were "putrid" -- and consisted of the "doctrines" of mere wannabe chefs -- "less than divine."

So, stop the soft-pedaling because either you don't want to sound so harsh, or you want to partially shield your leaders from being perceived that way.

All it does is highlight your wanting to have it both ways.

54 posted on 06/03/2010 4:26:47 PM PDT by Colofornian
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