Posted on 06/02/2010 1:47:13 PM PDT by reaganaut
Jesus of Nazareth, also known as Jesus Christ, or simply Jesus, is the central figure of Christianity. The life and sermons of Jesus form the basis of the Christian faith. Jesus Christ is recognized by believing Christians as God incarnate, the Son of God who was raised from the dead—the Redeemer of mankind—the most important figure in history.
According to Mormon doctrine, Jesus Christ is the Savior of the world. However, it seems that even the perceived Savior of the world is not exempt from LDS temple rituals. Proxy rites for Jesus Christ were performed in the Salt Lake (LDS) Temple in Utah, in April 2010. The Salt Lake Temple, located on Temple Square in the heart of Mormon-dominated Salt Lake City, was dedicated on April 6, 1893—three years before Utah became a state in 1896—and is one of the oldest of the 132 currently operating temples that are owned and maintained by The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS.)
New FamilySearch is the online genealogy database of the LDS Church that contains updated details of LDS temple ordinances that have been done for dead people. There are multiple listings for Jesus Christ in New FamilySearch—under different versions of his identity—which have been submitted by individual Mormons. It is not known how many times Jesus has been subjected to LDS rites because all New FamilySearch records for him—including combined records—show LDS ordinance details as “Not Available.”
On May 27, 2010, there were two similar records for Jesus in New FamilySearch which had been submitted by the same person. One listing was titled “Jesus Christian,” and showed “Jesus Christian” was born “before 1500 Bethlehem, Israel,” and died “before 1550 Jerusalem, Israel.” LDS ordinances were tagged as “Not available” on this record. The other entry was for “Jesus Cristian,” who was born “before 1502 Bethlehem, Israel,” and died “before 1539 Jerusalem, Israel.” The entry for “Jesus Cristian” gave a description of LDS ordinances, along with the name of a spouse—“Maria Magdelena.”
“Jesus Cristian” was baptized and confirmed a member of the LDS Church by proxy on April 8, 2010 in the “Salt Lake City Utah Temple.” “Jesus Cristian” was also subjected to initiatory temple ordinances on April 8, 2010; an endowment ceremony on April 9, 2010; and a marriage “sealing” to “spouse” “Maria Magdelena” on April 9, 2010—all rites occurred in the “Salt Lake City Utah Temple.”
It appears the submissions for “Jesus Christian,” and “Jesus Cristian” were attempts to manipulate the identity of Jesus Christ through the LDS temple system. The misspelled “Cristian,” instead of “Christian,” could have been a typo, or a deliberate error. It may have been intentionally entered as “Cristian” to get around a computer program that automatically blocks submissions that contain the names “Jesus Christ.” That would explain why the entry for “Jesus Christian” shows LDS ordinances as “Not available.”
While both New FamilySearch records in question lack complete birth and death data, and give imprecise “before” years of these events—the first name “Jesus” combined with the surnames “Christian” and “Cristian” (both spins on the name of “Christ”) are signs that “Jesus Christian” and “Jesus Cristian” are pseudonyms for Jesus Christ.
Other indicators on the New FamilySearch records that point to Jesus Christ are the birth place, “Bethlehem,” and the death location, “Jerusalem.” (Jesus Christ was born in Bethlehem and died outside the walls of old Jerusalem.) Another clue to the identity of “Jesus Cristian” is the name of his “spouse”—“Maria Magdelena,” a misspelled variant of Mary Magdalene. “Maria Magdelena” is not listed on the “Jesus Christian” record.
Because “Jesus Christian” and “Jesus Cristian” have similar names and identical birth and death locations—“Bethlehem” and “Jerusalem,” they are probably the same person. Their birth and death years are similar, but not the same. The estimated dates listed for these events look like they have been fabricated. According to their New FamilySearch records, “Jesus Christian” and “Jesus Cristian” were born and died in the 16th century. “Jesus Christian” lived roughly 50 years, while “Jesus Cristian” died in his thirties.
On May 27, 2010, “Maria Magdelena” was listed in New FamilySearch with her birth date as “1504 Israel,” and death date as “before 1540 Israel.” Both years are likely inventions. Along with “spouse” “Jesus Cristian,” “Maria Magdelena” was baptized and confirmed a member of the LDS Church by proxy on April 8, 2010 in the “Salt Lake City Utah Temple.” She was subjected to initiatory temple ordinances on April 8, 2010; an endowment ceremony on April 9, 2010; and the marriage “sealing” to “Jesus Cristian” on April 9, 2010—all rites were done in the “Salt Lake City Utah Temple.”
Mary Magdalene is described in the New Testament as a faithful follower of Jesus. Because the concept of marriage is strongly emphasized in LDS teachings, the notion that a spousal relationship existed between Jesus and Mary Magdalene is common among Mormons—although that belief is not formal LDS doctrine. There is no reliable historical evidence to indicate that Jesus was married—to Mary Magdalene, or anyone else.
LDS Church officials have publicly stated that the New FamilySearch program is a technological deterrent to improper submissions. Yet—under their very noses—on Temple Square in Salt Lake City, Jesus Christ—under a false name—two millennia after his birth, was offered Mormon salvation and an erroneous eternal marriage sealing.
Sometime late in the day on May 27, 2010, the individual entries for “Jesus Cristian” and “Maria Magdelena” were scrubbed from New FamilySearch—concealing the evidence that LDS rites had recently been performed for these two names in the Salt Lake Temple. The sudden disappearance of these records is a strong indication that “Jesus Cristian” and “Maria Magdelena” represent Jesus Christ and Mary Magdalene.
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Helen Radkey reminds me of Acorn methods it is not a credible site just a bunch of DU types and now the so called evident disappeared.
It just goes to show you reaganaut, pick up anything it matters not if it is credible source just to throw more contempt towards The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints
People read headlines and sounds bites that is all they remember most are too busy or slothful to do more.
Your reaganaut missioin is accomplished
Name one.
But a little advice, actually try throwing in a little defense instead of just making an accusation with an empty hand. While I know that is often what real LDS folk do, they also try and offer up lame arguments, and those post get a little more notice and consideration.
It would give your postings a little more impact, and it would not be so obvious that you are on our side.
Oh, it does explain why you actually don't link to LDS doctrine despite asking the lurkers to read it. That would be overkill. Back before I realized you were one of us I said you should do so, but now that I know different forget about it.
Keep up the good work.
Oh Resty, you can’t just call something”not credible” and make it be so.
You have to break it apart point-by-point and refute it with evidence, documention and reason and reason.
You can’t just wish it away. Go there, pick a point you object to or dispute, and bring it back here. We’ll be happy to hear you out.
Give him a break, he is one of us...
Good work resty, high five.
Typical...
LOL so are you!:)
Calling us all "liars" and "deceivers" again PD?
"That is probably intentional." That is one of the most offensive comments I've seen from a mormon to date and you try to escape criticism and the RM's rules against mindreading by using the word "probably". PROVE THE ASSERTION!
Do us all a favor and show where the "LIES" and "DECEIT" are in these posts and threads and post the rebuttal information.
You've been challenged on this time and time again. Yet, each time, you neglect to do so.
Why is that? Is it easier to attack the messengers as opposed to the message? Is it easier to hide behind the anonymity of your firewall and screenname?
I've come clean, why don't you? WHAT ARE YOU AFRAID OF???
As for your claims that there is a "vast amount of misrepresentation, twisting and lies spewed forth..." on these boards, prove it. Calling people liars is quite easy, proving it is another.
For the lurkers, by all means, "DO read this stuff" (mormonism) and then sit with your pastor, preacher, etc. and discuss what you have read with them and have them show you the "Truth". I, and a few others on this board have escaped mormonism. If you can find where we have been "misrepresenting", "twisting" or "lying" our experiences, just ask one of us and we'll gladly answer your questions.
You made the claim, prove it.
Um...in the way that Resty is?
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How could he have been good enough to “save” you if he didn’t meet and exceed the requirements, the PLAIN AND PRECIOUS TRUTHS?
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Excellent question. If polygamy is an ‘eternal principle’, then WHY WOULDN’T the LDS Jesus follow it?
/sarc
So many of you relize on strawman even Helen Radkey!
I used their genealogy records back when i was at BYU and taking a course on it. Everything I looked up that was their info (IGI, TI) was wrong. I stuck to the census records.
But I should go check and see if they have done work for my family in the 15+ years.
I mean come on, how incompetent can someone really be. The line between absurd idiocy and satirical counterargument can be fine...
So I really have to wonder, because the alternative is that these folk have absolutely no clue what they are doing and no cognitive ability what so ever.
oh, SNAP!
Do you even have a CLUE what the Jewish temple was for?
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I’ve been trying to have her give me the LDS answer to that question since she came on the thread!
C’mon resty, what ‘ordinances’ do you believe were performed in the temples of Jesus’ time? And what is their correlation if any to modern LDS temples?
TM4, you and I know the answer but I want to know what RESTY believes.
Are you trying to make us think you believe the Jews baptised people into the Jewish religion, and they did it in the temple?
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Actually, they kinda did (mikveh) but it wasn’t in the temple.
You are right. It IS a bong, makes so much more sense now...
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