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To: xone
"I'll assume you refer to some of the questions God asked Job, and not the unknown counsel of God. For man has a hard enough time examining himself than to believe he can comprehend all the workings and thought of the Almighty."

There is no "unknown counsel of God. Job 38:2, "Who is this that darkens my counsel with words without knowledge?" This refers to one w/o knowledge and understanding. The questions that follow are questions that can be answered.

All questions from Job 38...

God: "Where were you when I laid the earth's foundation? Tell me, if you understand.
spunkets: On your mind.

God: Who marked off its dimensions? Surely you know!
spunkets: You did.

God: " Who stretched a measuring line across it?
spunkets: You did, followed by men.

God: " On what were its footings set,
spunkets: On the energy and physics of your world.

God: "or who laid its cornerstone-"

spunkets: You did.

"How, no clue nor does any man since none were there at the time either. All we have is God's account through Moses."

No. Genesis is parable. Men can look at reality and use their reason to know what happened physically w/o the necessity of actually being present. To science, this universe appears as a phase transition in the dimensions, from another phase and this is referred to as the big bang.

Since there was one person that showed up and claimed to be the person that triggered what is known as the big bang, reason can be used to determine the logical consistancy of that story and to make a logical comparison of that story with the knowledge and understanding aquired through science.

The Epicurus principle states that, if there is more than one theory consistent with the evidence, keep both(or all). The nature of phase transitions(PT) is such that the specific cause of a particular PT event will never be known.

"Reason has its limits and its place is suppressed when faced by questions only God knows the answer to."

A lack of evidence is not a limitation of reason.

More from Job 38. God: "What is the way to the abode of light?
spunkets: In the mind of one who loves your values.

God: And where does darkness reside?
spunkets: In the mind of those that have rejected your values, or in no mind at all.

God: Can you take them to their places?
spunkets: Yes, and I will continue to teach.

Do you know the paths to their dwellings?
spunkets: I have learned some.

"God halted the setting of the sun for the Israelites to do battle. Josh 10:13.

No, He did not. The law of conservation of angular momentum prohibits it.

Re: Job 42:5 "My ears had heard of you but now my eyes have seen you."

Job is a story, a long parable. This face to face meeting is hypothetical.

106 posted on 06/10/2010 12:57:02 AM PDT by spunkets
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To: spunkets

I won’t argue the point of knowing the mind of God. You can know as much about Him as He has revealed, and no further.


107 posted on 06/10/2010 7:44:16 AM PDT by xone
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