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Posted on 05/30/2010 10:12:21 AM PDT by Sun
When my husband and I went to Mass last evening, unfortunately our parish priest was ill, so a guest priest said Mass.
When he read the Gospel, he changed He to she. Later the substitute priest said we really don't know if the Holy Spirit is a he or a she.
Later he said, wouldn't the altar girl make a good priest some day, even though the Vatican said women priests is a closed issue. It won't happen.
There were a few other things, but those were the things that bothered me the most.
Here is the gospel, where he changed He to she:
"Jesus said to his disciples: "I have much more to tell you, but you cannot bear it now. But when he comes, the Spirit of truth, he will guide you to all truth. He will not speak on his own, but he will speak what he hears, and will declare to you the things that are coming. He will glorify me, because he will take from what is mine and declare it to you. Everything that the Father has is mine; for this reason I told you that he will take from what is mine and declare it to you."
My husband and I are going to attend Mass a a Parish 35 minutes away, until our regular priest comes back, or we are sure they get another substitute priest.
My husband showed me in the Church prayer book where He, for the Holy Spirit, was approved by some council, I think centuries ago, so the priest has not the right to change it. He’s a guest priest, and he should have said the Mass, the way all priests do, but it seems he just wants to push some kind of AGENDA.
Sun, when I attended an outdoor wedding in the Rocky Mountains a few years ago, a hippy-looking guest priest did a reading of a silly old poem “Desiderata”. Towards the end, he said “Be true to your god, whatever you perceive him OR HER to be”.
Suddenly the sky was split with the BIGGEST LIGHTENING BOLT and THUNDER CLAP I have ever seen or heard.
Everybody sat in stunned silence for a few seconds, and then the wedding proceeded.
I really WISH the LORD would do that sort of thing more often. :-)
Others in the parish are also noticing the difference between the Masses. I heard one group talking today prior to Mass that the Mass is over very quickly, but then another person in the group chimed in, "but we don't learn anything."
I’m assuming you’ll also make your own priest and the parish office aware of your displeasure.
Maybe you should have your husband ask the Bishop for an apology letter from the priest, then you'll know if it goes anywhere. Of course the letter, if you get one, won't really be an apology, but at least you'll know he heard from his boss.
I remember during the Terry Schavo case, that I confessed that I wished a lightening bolt would hit her husband (not kill him mind, just give him a jolt to wake him up.)
I could have sworn my priest had a smile on his face, but it still cost me 2 Our Fathers, and 3 Hail Mary's.
Same here. Walked out and only came back when the left wing minister (once told me he considered Jimmy Carter to have been the best president in his lifetime and later on alluded to his pro-abortion beliefs - THAT was the last straw) decided, after the congregation had dropped by a third, to “retire” and was replaced. If a priest/minister/rabbi demonstrates he or she no longer (maybe never did) believes in the tenets of whatever faith or denomination they are commissioned to serve they need to leave, voluntarily or otherwise.
I’m sure he had an agenda, I’m just wondering what the original Biblical term was, not what some council deemed it to be.
Well, shucks, it is true that the keys have been given to the Church. Good point. However, that deflects from the point of the thread in which it is obvious that the priest is wrong. It is not the Faith and it is not the doctrine of the Church. The Church is the Church of sinners, and Lord knows, we really prove that over and over.
The freakish Father Phleger is a case in point; and there are bishops of the USCCB still alive that would have been beaten to death in the streets by the faithful in the 300s and 400s. However, things are not all gloomy.
If BXVI were not the most Orthodox Pope in the last millennium, would Patriarch Kirill or Metropolitan Filaret waste any of their time with him at all?
No joke: when we visited the Vatican, our priest arranged for use to be greeted by a Polish nun at St. Peter’s Square to plow past the Swiss Guard and see some things normally off-limits. She was an international telephone switchboard operator for the Vatican. When she later came to visit our priest on vacation, she stayed at our home. I almost died when I saw her copy of the official Vatican phone directory (she had to get it out to make a call). I was SOOOOO tempted to sneak in and grab it from her room while she was asleep so I could make a photocopy!!!
Are you Kranking her chain? :-)
LOL your homepage.
A mind thats preoccupied with such worldly silliness cannot be focused on the Word.
I would have given you FIVE Our Father’s but I am STRICT! LOL
Maybe because I have gotten electrocuted (while wallpapering)an know how it feels! hahahahahahahahaha
It’s an old altar boy joke.
I once walked out of Easter Sunday Mass and drove to the next parish when the priest started talking about the resurrection as a metaphor.
Didn’t have the nerve to clap my shoes together or shout 1 Cor 15:17 as I went, unfortunately.
I am a convert and it was probably the most difficult aspect of my new faith to get use to.
I now try to go to Confession once a week.
Ah.
(They never let me be an old altar boy).
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