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I was upset with a substitute priest at Mass

Posted on 05/30/2010 10:12:21 AM PDT by Sun

When my husband and I went to Mass last evening, unfortunately our parish priest was ill, so a guest priest said Mass.

When he read the Gospel, he changed He to she. Later the substitute priest said we really don't know if the Holy Spirit is a he or a she.

Later he said, wouldn't the altar girl make a good priest some day, even though the Vatican said women priests is a closed issue. It won't happen.

There were a few other things, but those were the things that bothered me the most.

Here is the gospel, where he changed He to she:

"Jesus said to his disciples: "I have much more to tell you, but you cannot bear it now. But when he comes, the Spirit of truth, he will guide you to all truth. He will not speak on his own, but he will speak what he hears, and will declare to you the things that are coming. He will glorify me, because he will take from what is mine and declare it to you. Everything that the Father has is mine; for this reason I told you that he will take from what is mine and declare it to you."


TOPICS: Catholic; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: apostolicnuncio; catholiccaucus; notifybishop; priestshortage
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To: vladimir998
I didn’t express any feelings. I simply stated facts. If you believe the description applies to you (”Tell us how you really feel about us...”), then you must agree with the description.

Uh, no...It doesn't apply to me...

The reason I responded to your post was that it seemed a little ironic that you appear to possess the very same attitude that you are accusing Protestants of having...

161 posted on 05/31/2010 4:20:54 AM PDT by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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To: Sun; All
The priest HAD his own parish, and if you read further, you will see that he is of retirement age

The way you worded it didn't make that clear (considering the tense used). If you wrote "I later found out that this guest priest used to have his own parish and is now retired" would have left no doubt.

Saying "I later found out that this guest priest had his own parish" does not at all imply that he no longer has one. Saying that he is of retirement age also does not mean that he is retired.

Nevertheless, I would still like to know who he is. He must have left a trail that irked someone else other than you. Otherwise it's just another anecdotal "he said, she said" tale as far as I am concerned.

What you allege about him is too radical for the Catholic Church to go unnoticed. It also suggests that his Bishop is too radical himself for allowing it while this alleged priest still had his alleged parish.

Now, if you said he wan an Anglican priest, no problem. But this story is just a bit "over the top." So, let's just dispense with anecdotal allegations and have the facts. Thank you very much.

162 posted on 05/31/2010 10:02:51 AM PDT by kosta50 (The world is the way it is even if YOU don't understand it)
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To: Sun
Priests who have their own parishes don’t have time to be guest priests

Oh, yeah, right, they work 24/7/365, never get sick, never get to see their parents and family, never get to go anywhere. Another pearl.

163 posted on 05/31/2010 10:06:12 AM PDT by kosta50 (The world is the way it is even if YOU don't understand it)
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To: Gapplega
"Call the Bishop’s Office immediately; this priest should be disciplined promptly."

Yes. And if the Bishop doesn't take action, call the Cardinal. That Priest is a weak link and he needs to either get with the program or leave.

164 posted on 05/31/2010 1:32:23 PM PDT by NoRedTape
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To: NoRedTape

“That Priest is a weak link and he needs to either get with the program or leave.”

Absolutely. He should not be allowed to say Mass ANYWHERE, and possibly lead - who knows how many people - in the wrong direction. Leading astray even ONE person would be one too many.


165 posted on 05/31/2010 7:05:13 PM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: Steelfish; Sun
This Pope truly believes that Catholics have a right to the Truth. Your change of command is - the parish priest (so he does not invite him again), the local bishop, The Papal Nucio, Archbishop Sambi in Washington DC and then the CDF in Rome.

I would cc all of them, but I am like that ;)

166 posted on 05/31/2010 7:25:59 PM PDT by pbear8 (the Lord is my light and my salvation)
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To: Dutchboy88
Next year comes the little girls to the altars (they’ve already had the little boys) and soon the tunnels between the monastery and the convents will be busy with training sessions.

Why do Protestants like porn so much?

167 posted on 05/31/2010 7:29:22 PM PDT by pbear8 (the Lord is my light and my salvation)
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To: Sun

another thread I should have skipped!


168 posted on 05/31/2010 7:31:50 PM PDT by Randy Larsen ( BTW, If I offend you! Please let me know, I may want to offend you again!(FR #1690))
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To: pbear8

The Parish priest did not invite him because he was sick; it was somebody from the Church council. I’m hoping the substitute priest was last on a list, and she felt desperate. Anyway, I’m going to call the Parish office, and my husband will call the bishop’s office, for starters.


169 posted on 05/31/2010 7:41:47 PM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: Sun

Best wishes


170 posted on 05/31/2010 7:44:39 PM PDT by pbear8 (the Lord is my light and my salvation)
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To: pbear8

Thank you. Please say a prayer for all involved, including the substitute priest.


171 posted on 05/31/2010 7:55:45 PM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: BenKenobi

I guess you smell something, but it wasn’t a zot. May we suggest a shower occasionally?


172 posted on 06/01/2010 8:33:13 AM PDT by Dutchboy88
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To: dsc
"That is a false dichotomy. Every Catholic is free to—no, has a duty to—oppose the heresy and abuses of this bad, bad man, whose heart is clearly as black as the Earl of Hell’s weskit."

Don't know who the "Earl of Hell" is, nor a "weskit", but it has a nice ring for a metaphor. Curiously, just how would a Catholic judge a teacher, a priest, a bishop, a pope for "heresy and abuses"? Does this extend to doctrines promulgated? If so, what is your measuring stick?

173 posted on 06/01/2010 8:38:22 AM PDT by Dutchboy88
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To: Krankor
Phone number: Et Cum Spirit 2-2-0

LOL! Haven't heard that for a while ...

174 posted on 06/01/2010 8:40:08 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: pbear8
"Why do Protestants like porn so much?"

If the Catholic priests didn't leave it lying around on the coffee tables we would probably get over it.

175 posted on 06/01/2010 8:41:28 AM PDT by Dutchboy88
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To: wardaddy
and I have walked out of a Prod service when a freak was preaching

Pretty much the only thing to do ... and shake the dust from your feet as testimony against them. I've walked out of a couple of supposedly Catholic supposed churches when it became clear that whatever was going on that Sunday morning was NOT Mass.

176 posted on 06/01/2010 8:51:12 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: vladimir998
"I hope you encounter Christ one day. I have no reason to think it has happened yet."

That is because, my FRiend, one cannot recognize an encounter with the living Christ until He removes scales from the eyes. When He gives freedom to the enslaved, grants rescue to the wicked, saves the unworthy it does not look like the sick and twisted religion of Rome.

177 posted on 06/01/2010 9:01:58 AM PDT by Dutchboy88
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To: Dutchboy88

Do you have anything to contribute here besides taunting posters?


178 posted on 06/01/2010 9:13:00 AM PDT by BenKenobi (I want to hear more about Sam! Samwise the stouthearted!)
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To: Dutchboy88

No, it looks like Dutchboy88 instead. What religion are you, if we may ask?


179 posted on 06/01/2010 9:14:50 AM PDT by BenKenobi (I want to hear more about Sam! Samwise the stouthearted!)
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To: BenKenobi

Primarily, he is revealing a lot about himself and his “confession”.


180 posted on 06/01/2010 9:17:57 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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