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“Moses had children, so he had sex. At least twice. In for a penny, in for a pound.”

I refuse to believe that you are stupid enough to say such a thing seriously, and therefore conclude that you are merely baiting me.

Just in case someone might be misled by your nonsense, I will note that celibacy *never* implies that one has never had sex, but only that one is not having sex while celibate. A person could be celibate between marriages.

“Peter, if he were celibate while married, would have been disobeying God’s command that husbands and wives not deprive one another.”

Not if his wife also accepted celibacy, not if she was deceased, and not if she abandoned him.

“You seem to be somewhat hostile, thinking I am against celibacy.”

I am hostile to shoddy thinking and bad logic, which inevitably lead to incorrect conclusions.

“I am saying, though, that it does not make one person holier than another.”

Don’t try and rephrase the proposition to make your position look sensible. Never was it posited that celibacy *makes* one person holier than another. I said that while some celibates were not among the most holy, all the most holy are celibate. The clear meaning of that is that celibacy *allows* the growth of holiness, while lack of celibacy impedes it.

“Gahndi was celibate. He was not holier than Moses or Peter or George Whitefield or Billy Graham. He did not even know Christ.”

If you’re not even going to pay attention to the arguments advanced against your position (see above), there’s no point in discussing the issue.

“So celibacy does not equal holiness.”

Once again you restate my position in such a way as to make it seem unreasonable. I call that a “dirty little leftist debate trick.”

Nobody said that “celibacy equals holiness.” Arguing against nonsensical propositions of your own devising is a waste of everyone’s time.