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To: AnAmericanMother; Logophile
No, earlier in the article he repeatedly refers to God as "him". [AnAmericanMother]

I didn't say the author never referenced God as Him/personal. But if you present God as both impersonal and personal, the Bible doesn't do that. (It only presents Him as personal).

The reference is to self-knowledge, not to God. [Logophile]

"It" in the sentence you complain of modifies "self-knowledge", not God the Father (or God the Son for that matter). [AnAmericanMother]

You know, that might be a cover, except you don't read well in the larger context, do you?

I referenced this author's "it" citation later in his article. So how do you explain this author's erlier reference?

The idea of God developed by Western Greek philosophers on the basis of reason before the advent of Christianity congrues remarkably with aspects of God as found in revelation, such as His omnipotence and omniscience, His unchangeability, his nature as an ultimately simple and absolute Being which is in fact Being Itself.

"Being Itself?"??? What a joke!!!

Even animals have personal genders. But I'd cut him some slack referencing some critter as a "Being Itself."

How would either of you like it if I referenced either of you as a "Being Itself?"

So what we wouldn't ascribe to a fellow human being, this guy will ascribe to God, Himself?

Sorry. But you both flunked reading in the larger context. "Being Itself" has NOTHING, ZERO, NADA to do with "self-knowledge."

6 posted on 05/24/2010 7:37:11 AM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian
It's the difference between a person and a concept. When referencing concepts, the writer uses 'it'. Which is perfectly o.k. and not disrespectful.
8 posted on 05/24/2010 8:24:09 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)T)
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To: Colofornian; AnAmericanMother
I agree with AnAmericanMother on this one.

How would either of you like it if I referenced either of you as a "Being Itself?"

I would be amused and a bit puzzled if anyone ever referred to me as "Being Itself."

So what we wouldn't ascribe to a fellow human being, this guy will ascribe to God, Himself?

There are plenty of traits that I would not ascribe to a fellow human being that I would ascribe to God.

I really do not wish to start an argument with you over the doctrine of the Trinity (which, as a Mormon, I do not accept).

However, I am bothered when one Christian attacks another who attempts to explain difficult doctrine. It is one thing to say that the author is wrong in his concepts or that he expresses things badly. It is quite another to accuse him of trying to "get away" with something, or to question whether he personally knows God.

Do something positive. Write a clear, concise, and coherent explanation of the doctrine of the Trinity that explains things better than this author has. Write it at a level the general reader can understand. When you are sure that you have it exactly right, post it on FreeRepublic for comment.

11 posted on 05/24/2010 8:53:05 AM PDT by Logophile
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