[Genoa]

Well, you keep your eyes on the eastern sky, looking. Meanwhile, faithful believers will be attending to their assigned tasks on the ground. . . .

Do you and Rushdoony believe we can multitask? I believe we can. I'll be busy, but I'll also be attending to what Paul wrote to us for our guidance. I know you're postmillennial, but it sounds like you think the kingdom of God will be brought in by the church's effort rather than by the intervention of God's spirit. I don't think a biblically sound postmillennialist would hold to that. If you believe in a future kingdom, and if you believe it's mainly God's doing, then you'll be looking for God's glory to appear in a way we have not yet seen in this age.

[RJR_fan]

but it sounds like you think the kingdom of God will be brought in by the church's effort rather than by the intervention of God's spirit.

Your reply is kinder than mine, so chalk one up for your side of the friendly in-house debate! (((((( fraternal embrace )))))))

You present a false antithesis. Reconsider the doctrine of the Incarnation, please. God works simultaneously through His Spirit and through human means. Being in on what God is up to is the grandest adventure available to us. We know that our feeble efforts, placed in the hands of Jesus, and with His blessings upon them, are more than sufficient to achieve His goals.

It's interesting -- pietists tend to substitute human effort for divine unction in the one area God does claim as His own bailiwick -- the work of regeneration. Charles G. Finney, the American Pelagian, invented the whole technology of mass-producing false conversions used to this day in Anabaptist churches. Then, these folks tend to ask God to do the things He expects us to do. Go figure!