I actually wonder why some even enter into the threads when it seems their only responses are to disparage and condemn.
I guess I go with Dominus Iesusin the notion that the fullness of the esseof "ecclesia" subsists in those Churches in communion with the Holy See.
But I also think that the lack of organic unity harms ALL of us. And I would be surprised if the bodies not in communion blah blah didn't think that something like "fullness of esse" existed (or subsisted or whatever) among them RATHER than among us.
So, to me, that's kind of the ground rules. And then we proceed to look around and compare and contrast and enquire and describe.
But that's just moi.