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To: Leoni
Vatican II is a punishment from God.

HERESY! If the Holy Spirit was not present at Vatican II, you need to put up some proof outside of the mal-application of its constitution by liberal bishops who took great liberties that were not theirs to take. To call it a punishment from God is blasphemy of the Holy Spirit, end of story.

And Robert Sungenis went off the deep end long ago. Another apostate.

54 posted on 05/11/2010 9:52:17 PM PDT by Rutles4Ever (Ubi Petrus, ibi ecclesia, et ubi ecclesia vita eterna!)
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To: Rutles4Ever
re: If the Holy Spirit was not present at Vatican II you need to put up some proof

Straw man! Neither Sungenis nor I said the Holy Spirit was not present at Vatican II.,/p>

It was precisely because the Holy Spirit was at Vatican II, that the heretical wishes of the progressives were not allowed to be declared as infallible doctrine. Vatican II is a punishment from God because He allowed the ambiguous language (the time bombs) to be entered into the documents, so that the false Catholics would manifest themselves, and the sooner amputate their gangrene, themselves from the body.

By the way, I'd advise you to rethink this knee-jerk tactic of calling people heretics and apostates, you have no authority to make it stick. Only Rome has the authority to declare someone an apostate and heretic.

55 posted on 05/12/2010 5:36:13 AM PDT by Leoni
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