Biblical Evidence for Long Creation Days

http://www.godandscience.org/youngearth/longdays.html ^

[gop4lyf]

How long were Adam and Eve in the Garden? If I recall correctly ( and I might not be), the Bible doesn’t start counting his age until he leaves the Garden.

[Uri’el-2012]

See Gerald Schroeder for Genesis and the Big Bang.

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach

[James C. Bennett]

A bigger problem would be of 6+ billion individuals descending out of one mating pair, primarily through incest, initially.

Such a model would develop so many genetic abnormalities in less than a dozen generations, humans would have been extinct a long time ago.

Then we have the problem of humanoids / Neanderthals, etc.

[stuartcr]

I believe they were there for abot 103-105yrs prior to getting kicked out.

[UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide]

The universe did not exist at all until I was born because it is all in my mind.
So the universe is less than 50 years old.

[jps098]

So the trees and grass created on day three, waited a loooonnngg time for the light to appear. I like the way this attempts to put the miracles of God in a box. Why can't God make trees already bearing fruit?

I have more respect for an atheist who does not believe than a supposed BELIEVER who tries to fit what the Bible says to make it agreeable to the atheist.

[Moonman62]

A bigger problem would be of 6+ billion individuals descending out of one mating pair, primarily through incest, initially.

With bottlenecks and isolation, evolution requires a high degree of inbreeding. Studies of mitochondrial DNA and Y chromosomes show that a lot of us humans are related to one another.

[sirchtruth]

It's not easy to remember sometimes words mean "things." Yes, plural. And God means these things literally and metaphorically in the same breath. The earth could be both 6,000 years old and 15 billion years old based on the definition of whose time it is being defined by.

Think about this, God can not lie. It's one of the things God CAN NOT do. (John 2:19) When Yeshua, said if you tear down this temple I will rebuild it in three days, we understand him metaphorically, he was talking about himself. Defining "Temple" as himself. However, he was standing next to The "Jewish Temple" when he made this statement those around him laughed because they took him to mean the "Jewish Temple." Stones...

Here's where 'words mean things' gets really interesting. Yeshua claimed to be God, if people tore down that stone Jewish temple could God have rebuilt in three days?

Words mean things.

[Anti-Utopian]

Don't forget that the birds they claim evolved from dinosaurs were created on Day 5, while dinos themselves didn't get created until Day 6.

They don't actually read the Bible, so it's easy to miss stuff like that.

[Matchett-PI]

bttt

More: http://biologos.org/

[Anti-Utopian]

The 6 Days  of Creation	Gen 1:11, 12, 21, 24, 25; 1 Cor15:38, 39 Everything multiplies "after its own kind"	Life forms are in a continual state of transition.
Day 1 Light	Gen 1:3-19 Light was created before the sun.	No light existed before the sun.
Day 2 Firmament	Gen 1:2 Oceans were created before land. Gen 1:7 Atmosphere between two hydrospheres	Land existed before oceans. Atmosphere & hydrosphere contiguous.
Day 3 Plants, Trees	Gen 1:11 First life was land plants Gen 1:11, 20, 21 Fruit trees were created before fishes. Gen 1:11-19 Plant life was created before the sun.	First life began in the waters. Fishes existed before fruit trees. Plants evolved after the sun.
Day 4 Sun, Moon, Stars	Gen 1:14-19 The sun & stars were created after the earth. Gen 1:16 Stars were all created at once.	Sun & stars existed before the earth. Stars evolved at different times.
Day 5 Creeping beings, Birds, Fishes, Whales	Gen 1:20, 21 Marine life was created all at once. Gen 1:20, 21 Birds & fishes were created on the same day. Gen 1:20-31 Birds & whales were created before reptiles.	Marine life developed gradually, from an organic blob. Fishes evolved hundreds of millions of years before birds. Reptiles evolved before birds & whales.
Day 6 Beasts, Man	Gen 2:7 Man was made from the dust of the earth. Gen 2:5 Man was created before rain. Gen 2:21, 22 Man was created, then woman.	Man evolved from monkeys. Rain existed before man. Woman preceded man.

[Grunthor]

I have always believed that the universe and the earth are hundreds of billions of years old. I believe tht dinosaurs and others roamed the earth tens of millions of years before human beings did. There were neandertals and other forerunners of our species.

I also believe that God created everything. Seven Days? What is time to Him that created it? Why do we always feel the need to limit God in such a way that we, a puny insignificant speck can understand Him?

Frankly I don’t WANT a God that I can understand. If God is so limited that even I, a high school drop-out can look at His creation and say “Yeah I can see where you were goin’ with that” then folks, we are in a s**t load of trouble.

[UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide]

A bigger problem would be of 6+ billion individuals descending out of one mating pair, primarily through incest, initially. Such a model would develop so many genetic abnormalities in less than a dozen generations, humans would have been extinct a long time ago.

You make an interestting point. My take:

Evolution requires a small, isolated population for genetic drift. Creation begins with single pairs. Both cannot be wrong even though both conflict with the observed results of inbreeding. However creation was perfect at the beginning and only with sin imperfections accumulate. Evolution has no such out.

[OneWingedShark]

I actually like the author’s recognition of the language and the multiple definitions of the word. The word used for God creating the “heavens and the Earth” is a form of stretched-out; and if Einstein’s special theory of relativity holds then if that stretching was fast enough then some really weird things happen to time (and how does one explain that to a people who don’t have the concepts).

Also, both the 12-hour and 24-hour days are defined by the Earth’s position [rotationally] in relation to the sun; if there was no sun until day 4 then how can we be sure that the ‘day’ in 1 through 3 were 24-hour? It is an assumption.

Furthermore, if God exists outside of time how could he relay that sort of experience to creatures whose only experience is within time? {Just as God defines morality, so God defines time.}

[James C. Bennett]

The relations link to different individuals over history. I’m sure you’re referring to Mitochondrial Eve and individuals like that. They all appear at different times over the timeline.

[James C. Bennett]

However creation was perfect at the beginning and only with sin imperfections accumulate.

In that case, by now, we'd all have grotesque genetic abnormalities.

Evolution has no such out.

Not true at all. Recently, when it was proposed that Australian Tasmanian Devils might be doomed because of a flaw in their genetics that made them susceptible to cancer. A couple of months ago, they found a gene in some individuals circumventing that flaw.

[stuartcr]

How is it, that you KNOW what God means, and that He means these things in the same breath?

[James C. Bennett]

This was argued earlier, about a divine entity using a separate time scale, but I recall in those discussions how many pointed out that the same time line of Creation is used in several places in the Bible, implying that the times all had to be same, and not dilated for each circumstance.

[stuartcr]

I like th fact that you say you believe, not that you know.