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To: RnMomof7

Of course go by the 1st church of your own decision on your own translation 5,000.000 ways to Sunday. Enjoy!


29 posted on 05/08/2010 4:09:27 PM PDT by johngrace
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To: johngrace
Of course go by the 1st church of your own decision on your own translation 5,000.000 ways to Sunday. Enjoy!

LOL...John, look for sources outside the RC church to validate your position and then we can take them seriously

Nevertheless, there is a point which would perhaps seem inconsistent with facts were I to place the translation of it in this work, but which I do not consider to involve an impossibility. It is this. Linus and Cletus were Bishops of the city of Rome before Clement. How then, some men ask, can Clement in his letter to James say that Peter passed over to him his position as a church-teacher? The explanation of this point, as I understand, is as follows. Linus and Cletus were, no doubt, Bishops in the city of Rome before Clement, but this was in Peter's life-time; that is, they took charge of the episcopal work, while he discharged the duties of the apostolate. He is known to have done the same thing at Caesarea; for there, though be was himself on the spot, yet he had at his side Zacchaeus whom he had ordained as Bishop. Thus we may see how both things may be true; namely how they stand as predecessors of Clement in the list of Bishops, and yet how Clement after the death of Peter became his successor in the teacher's chair.--The Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers, Vol 3, Ed. Philip Schaff, St. Jerome, writing in the "Preface to The Books of Recognitions of St. Clement" (Addressed to Bishop Gaudentius), p. 1136, AGES Software, Albany, OR USA Version 2.0 © 1997)
Jerome refers to Peter as "church-teacher" not pope or Bishop.. Peter was an elder (teacher)

30 posted on 05/08/2010 4:48:05 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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