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Jewish tradition has never denied that G-d is the creator of evil. The Bible itself attests to this: "I make peace and create evil" (Isaiah 45:7).

There is no evil counterpart of G-d who has chased Him off His throne and become "the gxd of this world." There is only One G-d Who is the King of All Worlds.

1 posted on 05/07/2010 6:57:42 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator
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2 posted on 05/07/2010 7:02:26 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator ( . . . Uqera'tem deror ba'aretz, lekhol yosheveyha . . .)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

“”unbearable pain to befall man, afflicting him with sickness, cruel death, earthquakes and the most horrible wars””

If you hold that these are bad, then your errant way of thinking can’t be set right.

You truly “can’t get there from here.”

Further discussion would be pointless.


3 posted on 05/07/2010 7:06:33 AM PDT by getitright (If you call this HOPE, can we give despair a shot?)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
When G-d..causes unbearable pain to befall man, afflicting him with sickness, cruel death, earthquakes and the most horrible wars..

God doesn't cause that....not since Jesus died on the cross. Most wickedness is chosen by man.

4 posted on 05/07/2010 7:11:39 AM PDT by laotzu
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To: Zionist Conspirator

G-d, th-t’s s- d-istr-ct-ng!

Why w-n’t y-u pe-pl- j-st br-ak d-wn and b-y th- f-ll pr-ce k-ybo-rd th-t h-s th- f-ll s-t -f v-w-ls?!?


5 posted on 05/07/2010 7:15:40 AM PDT by flowerplough ( Pennsylvania today - New New Jersey meets North West Virginia.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Isaiah 45:7 says exactly this: “I form the light and create darkness, I bring prosperity and create disaster; I, the Lord, do all these things.” He never said He “created” evil

Disaster and darkness are not the same as evil. God did not create evil- we did that. One of the hardest things for man to do is accept the fact that evil (as we understand it)exists because it is what we demanded. We CHOSE to know good and evil, to be “as gods”. This was not God’s original plan for us, but He gave us free will, and pride brought us the rest.


11 posted on 05/07/2010 7:50:30 AM PDT by 13Sisters76 ("It is amazing how many people mistake a certain hip snideness for sophistication. " Thos. Sowell)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

We couldn’t live without natural “evil” of earthquakes, volcanoes, weather systems, etc.

We might not be able to live without man-made evil either. We never have.


13 posted on 05/07/2010 9:09:05 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: Zionist Conspirator
How about this ?
23 The steps of a man are established by YHvH, And He delights in his way.

24 When he falls, he will not be hurled headlong, Because YHvH is the One who holds his hand.

25 I have been young and now I am old, Yet I have not seen the righteous forsaken Or his descendants begging bread.

26 All day long he is gracious and lends, And his descendants are a blessing.

27 Depart from evil and do good, So you will abide forever.

28 For YHvH loves justice And does not forsake His godly ones; They are preserved forever, But the descendants of the wicked will be cut off.

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach

15 posted on 05/07/2010 9:58:11 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Is this ecumenical or open for debate?


20 posted on 05/07/2010 1:40:02 PM PDT by joseph20 (...to ourselves and our Posterity...)
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