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To: marshmallow

I agree with Fr. Chadwick 100%. I would count it a calamity to lose the Latin liturgy; but I do not have much confidence that it will continue to be *the* primary liturgy of Western Christendom in the coming centuries. We’re simply in a different place now than we were from 500-1500. And the vernacularization of the liturgy is not some transitory fling of the 1960s either. The CounterReformation Church was understandably wary of the whole thing given Protestant excesses, but it too came to gradually expand the privilege over the years: in the missions (China, North America, etc.) and also in Europe itself (e.g. the singmesse).

And there’s the whole civilization aspect. Rome gave us Latin, Greece gave us Greek, Egypt gave us Coptic, and the present dominance of English across the globe says to me that it, too, will now take its place among the liturgical languages in the Church.

I haven’t got a drop of English blood in my veins, but I find the Anglo-Catholic ethos to be the most sensible starting point for American liturgy. I am delighted to see them be an increasing force in the Church here.


8 posted on 05/06/2010 8:43:54 AM PDT by Claud
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To: Claud
In the Catholic Church, advocates of the vernacular invariably seem to be "spirit of Vatican II" liturgical vandals who are on a mission to obliterate Latin.

It's so rare and refreshing to encounter someone who sees a way to preserve both and in a manner in which they enrich each other.

Such lucidity is hard to find and it seems to fit right in with the "reform of the reform" and what the documents of Vatican II really speak to regarding the liturgy (at least as I understand them).

When did common sense depart Catholicism and find a refuge amongst the Anglo-Catholics?

9 posted on 05/06/2010 9:42:15 AM PDT by marshmallow ("A country which kills its own children has no future" -Mother Teresa of Calcutta)
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