Saying that you are telling us to follow God, not you, is not an answer, because the Vatican says the same thing. We find the Bible to confirm our view. So why should we follow you?
Clearly it's not a matter of Scripture. We read Scripture, whatever you may think and say about us. And it's not a matter of reason, because, well, of the lack of reason in the argument that either Mary is not Jesus' mother, or she is but we shouldn't say so.
This has now achieved very close to supreme silliness.
“So you’re saying that instead of following the Vatican we should follow you?”
No, I’m saying that instead of following the idolatry and blasphemy of the Vatican, follow Christ as he instructs in His Word instead.
“You’ve already as much as said...”
I said no such thing. Please apologize to me for this false witness.
“Saying that you are telling us to follow God, not you, is not an answer, because the Vatican says the same thing.”
The Vatican says no such thing. That is the point. It is wrong to pray to dead people, they do not bring your prayers to Christ. None of that is in scripture. The Bible says to pray to the Father, no one else. Not angels, not the dead.
Mary was just a Christian like any other. She has no special authority. It is blasphemy to give to her the titles reserved for God alone. It is idolatry to pray to her. It is blasphemy to give the Pope the titles of God.
There shouldn’t be any statues or icons or medallions or fetishes of anything assumed to be in heaven. It becomes an idol that people expect they can pray to and get a special spell cast on them. Like finding lost things or curing cancer. Pray to the Father for these things.
There shouldn’t be a structured bureaucracy of preachers, it leads to corruption and is nowhere in scripture. Teachers should not be celibate, as the Bible says they should be married.
The bread and wine was to remember Christ, it was not to become an idol or to be the center of a magic ritual.
Peter was not the ‘first pope’. Christ was speaking about Himself when he said “this Rock”. The edifice didn’t even come on the scene for another 100 years.
Ugh there is just so many of these things that the Vatican is doing that is completely against Scripture.
“We find the Bible to confirm our view.”
Bible verses have been posted again and again that directly contradict what Rome is teaching.
“So why should we follow you?”
Please, enough with this strawman. It is the Word that should be followed, I was only repeating what was in it.
“Clearly it’s not a matter of Scripture.”
That’s the problem. When it is shown that the Vatican teachings are contrary to Scripture, those who follow and obey Rome throw out the Bible every time. This is what needs to change.
“...Mary is not Jesus’ mother, or she is but we shouldn’t say so.”
There is a difference between saying that Mary is the Jesus’ mother and saying that Mary is mother of the Body of Christ. If you cannot see this difference then you shouldn’t be making claims to having superior logic.
“This has now achieved very close to supreme silliness.”
It is Vatican willful blindness. It stems from not wanting to follow what is in the Word of God but instead wanting to do the opposite while maintaining a cloak of spiritual acceptance.