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Pope Benedict to deliver 'intense' message during Fatima visit
EWTN News ^ | 5/5/2010

Posted on 05/05/2010 10:48:55 AM PDT by markomalley

"Fatima is a particularly significant place for this Pope," said Vatican spokesman Fr. Federico Lombardi on Tuesday, noting that it was also a destination for two former Popes. The Holy Father has a thorough knowledge of the history of the Marian sanctuary, he added.

Fr. Lombardi held a press conference at the Vatican to prepare the media for the Pope's next trip out of the Vatican. He will be visiting Portugal from May 11-14.

The spokesman referred to the Pope's stop in Fatima on May 13 as the highlight and "heart" of the upcoming four-day trip to Portugal, according to Vatican Radio. But, he pointed out, Benedict XVI will not be the first Pope to visit the Marian shrine.

Two other Pontiffs have been to Fatima. In 1967, the sanctuary hosted Paul VI, and John Paul II visited in 1982, 1991 and 2000, at which time the visionaries Jacinta and Francesco were beatified.

The Portuguese shrine is not unfamiliar to Pope Benedict, since as head of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, then-Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger extensively studied the message of Fatima. Fr. Lombardi said on Tuesday that the Pope has been involved with history of the Marian sanctuary in a "very deep, personal way."

It was him, for example, who was called upon to give a theological perspective when the third secret of Fatima was made public in 2000.

The Vatican spokesman said that the Holy Father will also deliver an intense message during his Fatima visit. Upon his arrival at the sanctuary on May 12, he will remember John Paul II and the 29th anniversary of the assassination attempt that nearly took his life on May 13, 1981.

This visit marks the Holy Father's 15th Apostolic Journey abroad in his five years and is his first to Portugal as Pope.

During today's general audience, the Holy Father greeted the people of Portugal in their language, telling them that he will be there this coming weekend at the invitation of the president of the nation and the episcopal conference.

He said he was "happy to be able to visit the 'land of Holy Mary'" on the 10th anniversary of the beatification of the shepherd children.

According to Portuguese press reports, local police are planning for a cumulative total of 450,000 people at the celebrations in Lisbon, Fatima and Portugal during the four-day visit.


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To: wagglebee
Are the sources in post #6 from a banned website?

Freepmail me the link to any post that excerpts a banned source.

And yes, you can call Calvinists "abortionists." And they would have to debunk that claim just like Catholics should debunk the claim about Catholic churches and NAMBLA mills.

441 posted on 05/07/2010 3:01:01 PM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: Judith Anne

lol!


442 posted on 05/07/2010 3:07:02 PM PDT by netmilsmom (I am inyenzi on the Religion Forum)
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To: Outership
I posted my case on this several times already.

I'm sorry, I didn't see it. Could you please tell me which post, or give me a link? I'd like to read it. Really. And the false witness thing: where was there false witness on anyone else's part except yours?

443 posted on 05/07/2010 3:09:51 PM PDT by Judith Anne
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To: Religion Moderator; wagglebee

>>Freepmail me the link to any post that excerpts a banned source.<<

So the whole thing comes down to a link?
Someone can quote anything they want FROM that website but can’t link to it?


444 posted on 05/07/2010 3:10:33 PM PDT by netmilsmom (I am inyenzi on the Religion Forum)
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To: netmilsmom; Judith Anne
Some of us have capital letters and some just lower case. Diversity. It's the American and the Catholic way.

In the words of a friend, "This church looks like a bus station; must be Catholic."

445 posted on 05/07/2010 3:10:38 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (O Maria, sine labe concepta, ora pro nobis qui ad te confugimus.)
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To: Outership
"If you seriously believe that something I said is against any of the Beatitudes, please post that Beatitude and what I said and why you think I violated it."

Jesus is the model for the Beatitudes and the norm of the new law: "Love one another as I have loved you." This love implies an effective offering of oneself, after his example. Your vitriolic and hateful postings and condemnations belie Beatitude. Strong feelings are not decisive for the morality or the holiness of persons; they are simply the inexhaustible reservoir of images and affections in which the moral life is expressed. Passions are morally good when they contribute to a good action, evil in the opposite case. The upright will orders the movements of the senses it appropriates to the good and to beatitude; an evil will succumbs to disordered passions and exacerbates them. Emotions and feelings can be taken up into the virtues or perverted by the vices.

446 posted on 05/07/2010 3:14:37 PM PDT by Natural Law
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To: Religion Moderator
"And yes, you can call Calvinists "abortionists." And they would have to debunk that claim just like Catholics should debunk the claim about Catholic churches and NAMBLA mills."

So let me get this straight, it is OK to make references to the abnormal and ungodly acts condoned and supported by NAMBLA but we can't say "poo-poo" which depicts a very natural act performed by every living creature and is perfectly OK within the vocabulary of every two-year old?

447 posted on 05/07/2010 3:18:41 PM PDT by Natural Law
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To: Outership

INDEED:

- - -

“...the only people telling the truth ARE Catholics.”

Mary is not the mother of the Body of Christ. She has nothing to do with it, other than being a member of it like all us other Christians.

The Fatima visit was not of God. It was the stuff of fallen angels. Many of the testimonies to that end were hushed up by the Vatican so that they could promote their Queen of Heaven idol worship.

Paul was not “insane”, he was a stenographer for the Elohim.

Peter is not the “first pope”, Christ did not found the Vatican, Mary had other children, the Vatican did not decide what would be in the Bible, pedophile priests should have been removed from office and tried- not hidden away while remaining in their office to perform their heinous acts again and again and again. And those are just the threads from this week.

“Feel free to follow fools like Don Koenig into Hell. I’ve been glancing at his website and he is an idiot; the only reason he isn’t a well-known idiot is because he thinks he’s a scholar, he would have made it big in the comic book market.”

Care to give any reasons for feeling this way? You know, something that can be debated in the realm of ideas and possibly shown to be an utterly false description on your part? Or is this another ‘tarnish the messenger with absolutely no honorable reason and then run away’? Leftists do this all time, everybody sees through it now.

“You know, in all my time on FR I have NEVER seen a Catholic decide to leave the Church. However, I have seen a great many FReepers decide to join the Church.”

If by “Church” you mean those who follow and obey the Vatican, then you should *really* call your optometrist. Not that it matters mind you, for once again: numbers don’t matter, only Truth matters. Satan’s “church” is the largest and oldest in the world, does that make him right?

Great. Now I have this mental picture of Mr. Magoo as a Vaticanian walking off the roof of a Romanist chapel.


448 posted on 05/07/2010 3:19:45 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Judith Anne; Outership
I posted my case on this several times already.

Some people think that an assertion becomes an argument if it is repeated enough, and an argument becomes a proof if it is repeated enough.

I have yet to see a real argument. I also see some failures to make basic distinctions. For example there is an important difference between reading the Bible and coming to conclusions differing from those reached by outership and not reading the Bible.

I've concluded that there's nothing to see here.

449 posted on 05/07/2010 3:21:39 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (O Maria, sine labe concepta, ora pro nobis qui ad te confugimus.)
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To: Mad Dawg

Exactly. And no, I’m not your sockpuppet.


450 posted on 05/07/2010 3:23:17 PM PDT by Judith Anne
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To: Mad Dawg; Amityschild; Brad's Gramma; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; GiovannaNicoletta; Godzilla; ...

Probably

THAT, too

is, for many, in SOME respects

in the eye of the beholder.

Personally,

I deplore, sometimes loathe,

the way most of the rabid cliques and somewhat the whole Vatican Institution

perverts

—Scripture,
—History,
—word meanings,
—logic,
—political process and discourse,
—religion
—!!!TRADITION!!!
—relationships,

24/7

Comparatively . . . to that pile of perverseness, perversions,

the shrillest, most off the wall pontifications hereon by Prottys

are NOTHING,

nada, zip, meiyou dongxi, flat, dull, boring.


451 posted on 05/07/2010 3:34:10 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Outership
“Tough buns, cookie.”

I didn’t bake them

With every post, you are.

What in the world are you talking about?

The comic book universe that you get your antiCatholicism and antiChristianity out of. Maybe you should speak to this guy:

The Church of Christ is the Body of Christ which is made up of all Christians. I experience it every instant of every moment of every hour of every day, because I am in it.

Based upon your posted repudiation of almost all of its principles, I'd say that at best you're a Peeping Tom.


452 posted on 05/07/2010 3:34:17 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: markomalley

I will be looking for the planet Vaticanian in the night sky, and for the mother ship that will scoop up the less stable ones and return them to the slurry.

I really fear for our new friend.


453 posted on 05/07/2010 3:37:12 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: Inwoodian
One part of the message was that a person born in 1960 would bring peace to the Middle East. That person would be 50 now. Does anyone else remember this prophetic message?

I recall something different. That a person born in 1964 would be the Anti-Christ.

454 posted on 05/07/2010 3:39:30 PM PDT by NYer ("Where Peter is, there is the Church." - St. Ambrose of Milan)
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To: Outership
I am a member of the Body of Christ, whom Christ is the Head, and whom all Christians belong to.

Judging by your posts, you are having an out of body experience. And have been for some time.

Also, Christ didn’t found it.

You may be missing those pages in your Bible, assuming you have one.

If Scientology changed Xenu’s name to Jesus and then went around calling itself “The One True Church of Christ”, that would be blasphemy as well.

You're familiar with Scientology? A Scientology troll? Well, it fits. Do your high fiving fringe Christian friends know this? Would they high five a Scientologist?

455 posted on 05/07/2010 3:40:22 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: Mad Dawg
We are to deny Scripture, biology, or reason, or truth.

Or all four and become Reformed.

456 posted on 05/07/2010 3:41:19 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: Outership; Quix
I doubt this would get even a notice out of anyone but those who are in idolatry to an edifice.

Quix, it is not nice to post under another name.

I am following and obeying Christ.

Negative. Christ does not use flying saucers.

457 posted on 05/07/2010 3:43:12 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: Religion Moderator; Salvation
Are the sources in post #6 from a banned website?

Why would Salvation post from an anti-Catholic site?

My point was that, to the best of my knowledge, the lie about our Lady of Fatima being Muhammad's daughter originated in a comic book.

458 posted on 05/07/2010 3:43:25 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee
My point was that, to the best of my knowledge, the lie about our Lady of Fatima being Muhammad's daughter originated in a comic book.

That's news to me. I thought it originated on Iranian TV, as reported by ZENIT on May 13, 1998. What else did you read in a comic book?

459 posted on 05/07/2010 3:54:08 PM PDT by Alex Murphy (Pretentiousness is so beneath me.)
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To: Outership
There are also many wonderful Bible studies available on the web for free.

The site that you pimp for in your tagline is worth every penny.

What I say is not what God says, I was only repeating what He said.

You are very correct in that you do not say what God says; your parroting could use a whole bunch of improvement as well. All parrots do not understand what they parrot, but they usually get the mimicking correct.

to become a Christian one must confess with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead.

Luke 6: 46 "Why do you call me, 'Lord, Lord,' but not do what I command? 47 15 I will show you what someone is like who comes to me, listens to my words, and acts on them. 48 That one is like a person building a house, who dug deeply and laid the foundation on rock; when the flood came, the river burst against that house but could not shake it because it had been well built. 49 But the one who listens and does not act is like a person who built a house on the ground without a foundation. When the river burst against it, it collapsed at once and was completely destroyed."

The river is rising, Outership. Or Quix.

Then do your very best to follow and obey Yahweh by following and obeying the teachings of His Son Yah’shua our Messiah.

A subordinationalist too? God the Father, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Spirit make up the Triune God of Christianity. Are you a Judaizer too?

460 posted on 05/07/2010 3:54:36 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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