Posted on 05/05/2010 10:48:55 AM PDT by markomalley
"Fatima is a particularly significant place for this Pope," said Vatican spokesman Fr. Federico Lombardi on Tuesday, noting that it was also a destination for two former Popes. The Holy Father has a thorough knowledge of the history of the Marian sanctuary, he added.
Fr. Lombardi held a press conference at the Vatican to prepare the media for the Pope's next trip out of the Vatican. He will be visiting Portugal from May 11-14.
The spokesman referred to the Pope's stop in Fatima on May 13 as the highlight and "heart" of the upcoming four-day trip to Portugal, according to Vatican Radio. But, he pointed out, Benedict XVI will not be the first Pope to visit the Marian shrine.
Two other Pontiffs have been to Fatima. In 1967, the sanctuary hosted Paul VI, and John Paul II visited in 1982, 1991 and 2000, at which time the visionaries Jacinta and Francesco were beatified.
The Portuguese shrine is not unfamiliar to Pope Benedict, since as head of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, then-Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger extensively studied the message of Fatima. Fr. Lombardi said on Tuesday that the Pope has been involved with history of the Marian sanctuary in a "very deep, personal way."
It was him, for example, who was called upon to give a theological perspective when the third secret of Fatima was made public in 2000.
The Vatican spokesman said that the Holy Father will also deliver an intense message during his Fatima visit. Upon his arrival at the sanctuary on May 12, he will remember John Paul II and the 29th anniversary of the assassination attempt that nearly took his life on May 13, 1981.
This visit marks the Holy Father's 15th Apostolic Journey abroad in his five years and is his first to Portugal as Pope.
During today's general audience, the Holy Father greeted the people of Portugal in their language, telling them that he will be there this coming weekend at the invitation of the president of the nation and the episcopal conference.
He said he was "happy to be able to visit the 'land of Holy Mary'" on the 10th anniversary of the beatification of the shepherd children.
According to Portuguese press reports, local police are planning for a cumulative total of 450,000 people at the celebrations in Lisbon, Fatima and Portugal during the four-day visit.
Disregarding the falsity of the statement and focusing on what I think you are attempting to say about Catholic threads:
If you don't like them, don't look at them.
And we won't mind at all if you don't post on them.
>>Could I call Calvinists “abortionists”? <<
Hey, why not?
Calling someone a Nazi is acceptable.
“Then again you could always stay away from Catholic topic threads...”
Or, Vaticanians could stop posting idolatry and blasphemy...
“...or maybe the Holy Spirit is guiding you...”
PRAISE YAHWEH!!
“...these threads to expose you to the truth.”
The “truth” of what? Replacing Christ with a “Mary” idol? Sorry, I took the hidden path through the Gate. I’m not interested in the wide highway.
It is the height of idolatry and blasphemy what the Vatican has done with the personage of Mary. They took the old idol “The Queen of Heaven” and changed her name to “Mary”. Please repent.
Hahaha!
AMEN!
Okay. Which is it, Mary is not Jesus' mother or she is but we shouldn't say so?
You say: Please repent.... they [Catholics] claim to be THE ONLY Christians!
I say again:
That is not what the Vatican teaches. What does your Bible say about bearing false witness? Should those who say what is not so repent?
AMEN! AMEN! AMEN!
THX
Wagglebee, the baby was crying because he had his shots yesterday and I couldn’t figure out how to make him happy. He fixated on your UFO/alien guy and got quite. I kid you not. I think he misses the mother ship or something!!
I’m beginning to think that the RC’s did not get their shipment of psychologically soothing white hankies today . . .
The level of whining seems to be off the charts beyond their usual OLYMPIC CLASS whining.
Maybe they are having some kind of new group malady . . . maybe a special variety of Post Magicsterical Syndrome from too little time spent reading the Catechism and encyclicals.
You better take him in to get scanned or something, he might not even be your kid! :-)
Naw.
Great foils to have around.
Going at it with y’all adds a certain kind of energy to FR.
INDEED.
“...the only people telling the truth ARE Catholics.”
Mary is not the mother of the Body of Christ. She has nothing to do with it, other than being a member of it like all us other Christians.
The Fatima visit was not of God. It was the stuff of fallen angels. Many of the testimonies to that end were hushed up by the Vatican so that they could promote their Queen of Heaven idol worship.
Paul was not “insane”, he was a stenographer for the Elohim.
Peter is not the “first pope”, Christ did not found the Vatican, Mary had other children, the Vatican did not decide what would be in the Bible, pedophile priests should have been removed from office and tried- not hidden away while remaining in their office to perform their heinous acts again and again and again. And those are just the threads from this week.
“Feel free to follow fools like Don Koenig into Hell. I’ve been glancing at his website and he is an idiot; the only reason he isn’t a well-known idiot is because he thinks he’s a scholar, he would have made it big in the comic book market.”
Care to give any reasons for feeling this way? You know, something that can be debated in the realm of ideas and possibly shown to be an utterly false description on your part? Or is this another ‘tarnish the messenger with absolutely no honorable reason and then run away’? Leftists do this all time, everybody sees through it now.
“You know, in all my time on FR I have NEVER seen a Catholic decide to leave the Church. However, I have seen a great many FReepers decide to join the Church.”
If by “Church” you mean those who follow and obey the Vatican, then you should *really* call your optometrist. Not that it matters mind you, for once again: numbers don’t matter, only Truth matters. Satan’s “church” is the largest and oldest in the world, does that make him right?
Great. Now I have this mental picture of Mr. Magoo as a Vaticanian walking off the roof of a Romanist chapel.
“Obviously not a space cadet.”
Mark says to his reflection in his monitor.
You tell him Mark! You’re not a space cadet no matter how many of the other kids at your school call you that.
You would have to have gone through the military, been the best of the best, and passed all the entry tests into NASA. Just tell those kids that there ain’t no way someone with your smarts could ever do that!
What IS she the mother of? Can you tell me what you believe or is your participation limited to telling us what you don't believe?
The Fatima visit was not of God. It was the stuff of fallen angels.
Would you care to give other instances where fallen angels (and by this I assume you mean funny looking green men in UFOs) have told people to pray to Jesus Christ? Can you cite a SINGLE credible instance of this?
Many of the testimonies to that end were hushed up by the Vatican
Where is your proof of this?
Paul was not “insane”, he was a stenographer for the Elohim.
A. I have never said that Saint Paul was insane.
B. Where does the Bible so much as hint that Saint Paul or any other author was a "stenographer"?
Care to give any reasons for feeling this way?
Why do I think that Don Koenig is going to lead people to Hell? A cursory examination of his website shows that he hates the Church and, by extension, God.
Not that it matters mind you, for once again: numbers don’t matter, only Truth matters.
Don Koenig's website has neither Christ nor the Truth.
Praise Yahweh!!
I do exactly the same thing. And from what I have seen, so does every other Christian on this board.
“...some here that do not believe that God has the ability send His mother with a message...”
Absurd. And false witness. Nobody stated that God doesn’t have this ability. What *was* stated is that He didn’t do that.
“...Satan has the ability to send UFOs with a message.”
The Bible warns us about these things.
“They are blasphemous because they are trying to argue that Satan is more powerful than God.”
Absolutely false and absolutely bearing false witness. Every Christian knows that God is more powerful than Satan. His Word clearly says so.
That is just plain horse hockey! How can you even pretend to know what the Catholic teaches on Mary or any other subject if you have never read AND studied the complete Catechism of the Catholic Church, the Canon Laws, and the Ecumenicals? When you attempt shout down learned Catholics and claiming that we believe something other than we profess you are practicing buffoonery. By substitute excepts from Google mining expeditions and blasphemous testimony received from the Rev. Billy-Bob Rolex for the actual words of the Catechism or the teachings of the Church Fathers you only result in moving others closer to the Church and yourself further from God.
I'm curious, do you actually know what false witness even means?
How EXACTLY do you "know" that God didn't sent the Blessed Virgin Mary to Fatima?
The Bible warns us about these things.
Please, for all the YOPIOS lovers everywhere cite book, chapter and verse where the Bible says that Satan sends UFOs out with messages.
Absolutely false and absolutely bearing false witness. Every Christian knows that God is more powerful than Satan. His Word clearly says so.
On the contrary, many on this thread have stated that they have knowledge that the apparitions at Fatima were UFOs and not the Blessed Virgin Mary. It makes perfect sense to conclude this stems from a belief that Satan can create an apparition and God cannot.
Oh yeah, once again, do you think Catholics should be allowed on FR? Are you afraid to answer this question or do you just not understand it?
I LOVE discussion. I hate to see it perverted.
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