No can do.
Posted on 05/05/2010 10:48:55 AM PDT by markomalley
"Fatima is a particularly significant place for this Pope," said Vatican spokesman Fr. Federico Lombardi on Tuesday, noting that it was also a destination for two former Popes. The Holy Father has a thorough knowledge of the history of the Marian sanctuary, he added.
Fr. Lombardi held a press conference at the Vatican to prepare the media for the Pope's next trip out of the Vatican. He will be visiting Portugal from May 11-14.
The spokesman referred to the Pope's stop in Fatima on May 13 as the highlight and "heart" of the upcoming four-day trip to Portugal, according to Vatican Radio. But, he pointed out, Benedict XVI will not be the first Pope to visit the Marian shrine.
Two other Pontiffs have been to Fatima. In 1967, the sanctuary hosted Paul VI, and John Paul II visited in 1982, 1991 and 2000, at which time the visionaries Jacinta and Francesco were beatified.
The Portuguese shrine is not unfamiliar to Pope Benedict, since as head of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, then-Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger extensively studied the message of Fatima. Fr. Lombardi said on Tuesday that the Pope has been involved with history of the Marian sanctuary in a "very deep, personal way."
It was him, for example, who was called upon to give a theological perspective when the third secret of Fatima was made public in 2000.
The Vatican spokesman said that the Holy Father will also deliver an intense message during his Fatima visit. Upon his arrival at the sanctuary on May 12, he will remember John Paul II and the 29th anniversary of the assassination attempt that nearly took his life on May 13, 1981.
This visit marks the Holy Father's 15th Apostolic Journey abroad in his five years and is his first to Portugal as Pope.
During today's general audience, the Holy Father greeted the people of Portugal in their language, telling them that he will be there this coming weekend at the invitation of the president of the nation and the episcopal conference.
He said he was "happy to be able to visit the 'land of Holy Mary'" on the 10th anniversary of the beatification of the shepherd children.
According to Portuguese press reports, local police are planning for a cumulative total of 450,000 people at the celebrations in Lisbon, Fatima and Portugal during the four-day visit.
THAT is an excellent story. Interesting.
Idolaters and blasphemers really cannot find yolk with Christians. Pretending they are not doing these things for the sake of “getting along” will make all of us in error.
Are unrepentant homosexuals, and the acts they perform, now to be accepted and welcomed and called good if they claim they are Christian? What about sorcerers? Do God’s commands really matter if they get in the way of everyone “getting along”? What does “getting along” even mean? Doesn’t it really mean that Christians simply just accept antichristian things as good and to just shut up about it? How is that any different than the philosophy of the Left?
Also, those in idolatry and blasphemy will stay deceived, and so won’t get to meet the Lord. I would rather be unpopular here on this mostly meaningless Earth, than be sitting with my King, looking around the table, and noting that more could have been there if only I had given up my reputation of being liked by everyone, to warn them (this is not to say that any of this really has anything to do what I do. If I fail God can easily use somebody else to do what it is He wants done).
I think
you know full well
that I’m a very FIERCE proponent of dads, particularly, but both parents doing whatever it takes to avoid any REACTIVE ATTACHMENT DISORDER
AT ALL.
IIRC, I even posted a whole thread about the topic.
Debunk the claim on-thread.
For example, highlighting historical atrocities does not constitute hate mongering - claiming atrocities without any historical basis would likely be considered hate mongering.
But hate mongering is a high bar and statements which condemn religious beliefs are not automatically hate mongering.
It is not at all unusual when one belief spawns from another that both condemn the other in harsh terms, e.g. heretic, anathema, apostate, cult, sect, Satanic. Such terms are often part of the poster's deeply held beliefs and may be used in the poster's holy writings. And such terms do not automatically constitute hate mongering.
Slurs such as "Papist" or "Snake-handler" or "Moron" or "Nazi" are not hate mongering. Childish, yes; hate-mongering, no.
Slurs such as "baby killers" and "blood suckers" depending on the context might be pulled as hate mongering.
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Perhaps you are blind to it but post 182 elevates Mary by placing her as the head of the Head of the Body of Christ.
It is concealed by replacing the word “head” with the word “mother”. The word “mother” is a title that denotes authority. God Himself takes the title of Father. It grants Mary authority she doesn’t have in Scripture. In Scripture she has no authority at all.
Humans that in their hearts do not love God and have turned away from His Son, have created an idol for themselves that they prefer instead. A woman. They much prefer to pray to and worship and love this woman idol than God.
To be polite and clear would mean forsaking one's divine reward. Only attacking will preserve the divine obnoxiousness which will assure salvation.
I think a critical aspect of this is that actually persuading people doesn't matter. So if it turns out that most people turn away from language that is clearly offensive and inaccurate, there's no need to reconsider methods and techniques. Rejection is confirmation -- their version of rejoicing that by provoking rejection they are counted worthy to suffer for the name.
It does not merit debunking. It is simply unacceptable. I dare anyone to make a rational defense of the use of a NAMBLA reference in the context of the Catholic Church and to explain why it isn't far more offensive than a simple "potty" reference. That subject has NO place on the Religion Forum.
“Then go away.”
I need to stay so that I can tell the Truth that is in the Word in order to prevent people from being deceived by the constant idolatry and blasphemy put out by Vaticanians. I don’t want to see anyone get pulled into damnation. There isn’t anything more important for a Christian to do in all of the Earth.
If the deception attempts stop, then I won’t have to counter them any longer.
The word “mother” is a title that denotes authority.
Says who? Yes, a son owes his mother "honor" as it says in the Bible. But that doesn't mean that she has authority over her adult son. And, besides, the Bible says that Jesus was subject to his parents.
You give the word "mother" a connotation that we do not give it, and then on the basis of YOUR connotation you say something about what WE think. It makes no sense.
No can do.
>>”Nazi” are not hate mongering.<<
????
There is a blank in their Bibles between Malachi and Acts 9. Not their fault.
And you plan to prevent people's being deceived by saying things about them that they know are not true and by presenting yourself as so perfect a representative of what's in Scripture that to reject your words is to dismiss God?
Would you prefer that all Catholics be corralled in one place and stop posting?
I remember that, too ... except my memory was 1961 .. which does give me pause.
Can’t we just denounce it? If not, then every thread will become a discussion of the whole sex abuse thing.
>>I dare anyone to make a rational defense of the use of a NAMBLA reference in the context of the Catholic Church and to explain why it isn’t far more offensive than a simple “potty” reference.<<
Perhaps it is acceptable because it is believed to be true.
Interesting. The LDS figure that they are going to wind up as gods in the region of Kolob, and now here you are claiming to speak for God travelling from the planet of Vaticania. Can we see it in the night sky?
If the deception attempts stop, then I won’t have to counter them any longer.
That's mighty good of you. What did you say your god's name is?
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