Typical anti-Mormon dribble. I quote an article from somebody that I believe is not Mormon and I didn’t see word one in the article and you still attempt to tie what I said to the Mormon Church.
I’m not arguing what “it” is Colofornian, I just trying to point out that maybe, just maybe, the phrase “gates of Hell” doesn’t mean what it is typically interpreted to mean.
So, if you want to address what I have posted, you should address what I have posted and what I have posted is that the phrase “gates of Hell” could easily mean “death” since the word of “Hell” is “Hades” which is the place of the dead.
Ante-Nicene Fathers
Volume VIII
Apocrypha of the New Testament
Christ’s Descent into Hell: Latin. First Version
Chapter 5
And as Prince Satan and Hades were thus speaking to each other in turn, suddenly there was a voice as of thunders, and a shouting of spirits: Lift up your gates, ye princes; and be ye lifted up, ye everlasting gates; and the King of glory shall come in.[1] Hades hearing this, said to Prince Satan: Retire from me, and go outside of my realms: if thou art a powerful warrior, fight against the King of glory. But what hast thou to do with Him? And Hades thrust Satan outside of his realms. And Hades said to his impious officers: Shut the cruel gates of brass, and put up the bars of iron, and resist bravely, that we, holding captivity, may not take Him captive.[2]
And all the multitude of the saints, hearing this, said to Hades, with the voice of reproach: Open thy gates, that the King of glory may come in. And David cried out, saying: Did I not, when I was alive upon earth, prophesy to you: Let them confess to the Lord His tender mercies and His wonderful works to the children of men: for He has shattered the brazen gates, and burst the iron bars; He has taken them up out of the way of their iniquity?[3] And after this, in like manner, Esaias said: Did not I, when I was alive upon earth, prophesy to you: The dead shall rise up, and those who are in their tombs shall rise again, and those who are upon earth shall exult; because the dew, which is from the Lord, is their health?[4] And again I said, Where, O Death, is thy sting? where, O Hades, is thy victory?[5]
And when all the saints heard this from Esaias, they said to Hades: Open thy gates. Since thou art now conquered, thou wilt be weak and powerless. And there was a great voice, as of thunders, saying: Lift up your gates, ye princes; and be ye lifted up, ye infernal gates; and the King of glory shall come in. Hades, seeing that they had twice shouted out this, says, as if not knowing: Who is the king of glory? David says, in answer to Hades: I recognise those words of the shout, since I prophesied the same by His Spirit. And now, what I have said above I say to thee, The Lord strong and mighty, the Lord mighty in battle; He is the King of glory.[6] And the Lord Himself hath looked down from heaven upon earth, to hear the groans of the prisoners, and to release the sons of the slain.[7] And now, most filthy and most foul Hades, open thy gates, that the King of glory may come in. While David was thus speaking, there came to Hades, in the form of a man, the Lord of majesty, and lighted up the eternal darkness, and burst asunder the indissoluble chains; and the aid of unconquered power visited us, sitting in the profound darkness of transgressions, and in the shadow of death of sins.[8]
Footnotes
1. Ps. xxiv. 7.
2. Ps. lxviii. 18. Captivemus in the text is probably a misprint for captivemur, may not be taken captive.
3. Ps. cvii. 15–17, according to the LXX. and the Vulgate.
4. Isa. xxvi. 19, according to the LXX.
5. Hos. xiii. 14; 1 Cor. xv. 55.
6. Ps. xxiv. 7, 8.
7. Ps. cii. 19, 20.
8. Comp. Isa. ix. 2; Luke i. 79.
From the above early Christian writing, it’s obvious that the gates of Hades is talking about death and the grave. Christ burst asunder the gates of Hell/Hades upon his death and resurrection.
From the song “Christ the Lord Is Risen Today,” a very Christian song, verse 3:
Vain the stone, the watch, the seal, Alleluia!
Christ hath burst the gates of hell, Alleluia!
Death in vain forbids His rise, Alleluia!
Christ hath opened paradise, Alleluia!
So Colofornian, you can talk as much as you want about the evil Mormon Church and its mythical Apostasy, but it obvious, even to the most casual observer, that “gates of Hell” is talking about “the grave” or “death.”
You still have an issue...
As Colorfornian pointed out Matthew 16:18 refers specifically to The Church that Christ built.
So using your argument that death will not stand against it (the Church), which in many ways is a sound interpretation of what is meant in that passage, we still have no need for a restored anything, the Church will not die, ergo there is nothing to be restored, it will be with us always.
Which of course means that there was never any need for the visions of Joseph Smith because God does not play games nor waste his time playing tricks...
Which further means there is no basis for the LDS other than the machinations of...
Well you know the rest, you work for them...
Nice spin though, a sadly necessary response to "dribble" (AKA facts...) thanks to having to toe the LDS Inc. company line...